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Vrax
Old 07-19-2006, 04:58 AM     Post subject: BB special, probably totally misplayed #1 (permalink)  
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Trips with good kicker, I felt totally lost with that hand until filling up on river, how to play it: fast 3-barrels or wait for turn CR? I intended to CR single bet+overcalls ov turn but opponent raising froze me and I called like noob.

Again, suckiness of Boss Network HH's structure and incompatibility with converter, so I put 1 hand/post.
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Hand #369702620 at table: Table TH 783
Started: Tue Jul 18 00:16:45 2006

clana1 is at seat 1 with 5.81
loketana is at seat 2 with 19.87
_Vrax_ is at seat 3 with 49.87
matsew2 is at seat 5 with 24.50
phyton is at seat 6 with 37.50
Galactu is at seat 7 with 14.75
Papuan is at seat 8 with 17.22
sorny4 is at seat 9 with 9.25
DannyPA is at seat 10 with 32.36

_Vrax_ posts the large blind 0.50
loketana posts the small blind 0.25

loketana: --, --
_Vrax_: 7c, Qc
matsew2: --, --
phyton: --, --
Galactu: --, --
Papuan: --, --
sorny4: --, --
DannyPA: --, --
clana1: --, --

Pre-flop:

matsew2: Call 0.50
phyton: Fold
Galactu: Fold
Papuan: Fold
sorny4: Call 0.50
DannyPA: Call 0.50
clana1: Fold
loketana: Fold
_Vrax_: Check

Flop (Board: 4s, 7h, 7s):

_Vrax_: Check
matsew2: Check
sorny4: Check
DannyPA: Bet 0.50
_Vrax_: Call 0.50
matsew2: Call 0.50
sorny4: Fold

Turn (Board: 4s, 7h, 7s, Ac):

_Vrax_: Check
matsew2: Bet 1.00
DannyPA: Raise 2.00
_Vrax_: Call 2.00
matsew2: Call 2.00

River (Board: 4s, 7h, 7s, Ac, Qs):

_Vrax_: Bet 1.00
matsew2: Call 1.00
DannyPA: Raise 2.00
_Vrax_: Raise 3.00
matsew2: Fold
DannyPA: Fold

_Vrax_ wins the pot of 14.25 by default

(0.50 rake were taken for this hand)
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Old 07-19-2006, 05:35 AM #2 (permalink)  
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check/3bet the turn!
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Old 07-19-2006, 05:49 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 Ya, what scared you on the turn, what could he have had that beat you, couldn't have been QQ or A7...play it stronger. Let me ask you this, are you leading at the river without the queen falling? Or are you check calling? You're gonna lead cause you know you're best... You know exactly why they bet and raised the turn, cause you didnt check raise the flop. You got the exact action you wanted but you did not follow through, why?

Let's look at it this way. If you raise the turn it seems both players have hands enough to call, making you 3BBs you wouldnt have by calling. Then you lead at the river and get two callers...5BB total profit on turn/river

You smooth call the turn, making you no extra bets, then you bet and 3 bet the river but only profit 3BBs for a 3BB profit on the turn/river. Therefore you were +EV to raise the turn IMO. Of course, both players could have read you for a 7 and folded the 3bet on the turn, you'll never know til you try, and you missed a bit of an opportunity to try.
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:23 AM     Post subject: Re: BB special, probably totally misplayed #4 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by Vrax
opponent raising froze me and I called like noob.
Well there's your problem. Next time an unexpected betting pattern pops up, take the time to think it through before defaulting to a response. Granted this is easier said than done...once in the rhytm of playing fast-paced online poker, it's hard to break out of it, and it's sometimes automatic to only give yourself a few moments of time before choosing a play, and you have to occasionally remind yourself that you have a good portion of a minute to think.
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Old 07-19-2006, 09:07 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I usually lead this flop. I like a turn 3-bet.
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