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matt2655
Old 03-04-2006, 03:17 AM     Post subject: Bad River Call? #1 (permalink)  

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First question, was the preflop raise ok from this position with so many callers before me?
Second question, was the river call worth it, or should I have known he had the 9?
Thanks for your responses.
Btw, new to the site. It's a great help.
PokerStars Game #4167016385: Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2006/03/03 - 23:03:51 (ET)
Table 'Semphyra' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: matt2655 ($84.25 in chips)
Seat 2: JimsGame ($60 in chips)
Seat 3: kenyvr ($11.75 in chips)
Seat 4: yaya45 ($28.25 in chips)
Seat 5: pdmay ($35 in chips)
Seat 6: calidro ($31.25 in chips)
matt2655: posts small blind $0.50
JimsGame: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to matt2655 [Qs As]
kenyvr: calls $1
yaya45: calls $1
pdmay: calls $1
calidro: folds
matt2655: raises $1 to $2
JimsGame: folds
kenyvr: calls $1
yaya45: calls $1
pdmay: calls $1
*** FLOP *** [9s 9d Ah]
matt2655: bets $1
kenyvr: folds
yaya45: calls $1
pdmay: calls $1
*** TURN *** [9s 9d Ah] [2h]
matt2655: bets $2
yaya45: raises $2 to $4
pdmay: folds
matt2655: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [9s 9d Ah 2h] [7c]
matt2655: checks
yaya45: bets $2
matt2655: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
yaya45: shows [7h 9h] (a full house, Nines full of Sevens)
matt2655: mucks hand
yaya45 collected $23 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $24 | Rake $1
Board [9s 9d Ah 2h 7c]
Seat 1: matt2655 (small blind) mucked [Qs As]
Seat 2: JimsGame (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: kenyvr folded on the Flop
Seat 4: yaya45 showed [7h 9h] and won ($23) with a full house, Nines full of Sevens
Seat 5: pdmay folded on the Turn
Seat 6: calidro (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 03-04-2006, 04:40 AM #2 (permalink)  
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1. Use the hh converter
2. Don't show results

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with Q A
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button folds, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Flop: 9 9 A (9SB, 4 players)
Hero bets, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: 2 (6BB, 3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, CO folds, Hero calls.

River: 7 (10BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 12BB
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Old 03-04-2006, 04:56 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 Its pretty standard to me. Get used to this, because it happens often.


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littleogre
Old 03-04-2006, 05:31 AM #4 (permalink)  

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littleogre has a little shameless behaviour in the past
 honestly it looks like a fairly easy fold to me.


Then again my opinion could be tainted by the fact that you gave the results of the hand.
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:57 AM     Post subject: Re: Bad River Call? #5 (permalink)  
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I play it exactly the same. You will beat a lower Ax often enough to call.
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ArcticKnight
Old 03-04-2006, 06:58 AM #6 (permalink)  
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It may be bad, but me bad too then----cause I'm calling down most opponents here, absent reads...

Some players go a flush draw this way, trying to give themselves two ways to win..(hit the river or cause a fold).
Gone golfing ..see ya in the Fall of 2006
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Old 03-04-2006, 04:18 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by littleogre
honestly it looks like a fairly easy fold to me.
only if you think you're lose more than 1 in 12 times.
 
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:36 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by littleogre
honestly it looks like a fairly easy fold to me.
only if you think you're lose more than 1 in 12 times.
Isn't it the other way around... You only need to win 1 in 12 right?
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Old 03-04-2006, 10:10 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by littleogre
honestly it looks like a fairly easy fold to me.
only if you think you're lose more than 1 in 12 times.
Isn't it the other way around... You only need to win 1 in 12 right?
whoops...got all confused...
i meant only if you'll lose more than 11 in 12 times.
 
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Old 03-04-2006, 10:15 PM #10 (permalink)  
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The question isn't bad river call, but bad turn call. You call the turn bet assuming you are going to call a bet on the river. You must call the river bet. Calling the turn bet depends on your opponent. Knowing nothing about your opponent, there is no reason not to call. You will beat 'slow-played' aces with worse kickers often enough here.
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