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scgolfer

05-27-2004, 05:16 AM Post subject: Bad night at bedrock

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Ill post just a few. Not much luck tonight.

PokerStars Game #454282427: Hold'em Limit ($2/$4) - 2004/05/26 - 22:31:18 (ET)
Table 'Themisto' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Spratt Dog ($108.50 in chips)
Seat 2: chloepear ($254 in chips)
Seat 4: Graceman10 ($142 in chips)
Seat 5: POKINATOR ($40 in chips)
Seat 6: WasabiMan ($13.50 in chips)
Seat 7: YU_YING ($97.50 in chips)
Seat 8: camp43 ($125 in chips)
Seat 9: scgolfer ($79 in chips)
Seat 10: koolade ($71 in chips)
scgolfer: posts small blind $1
koolade: posts big blind $2
JC Penny: sits out
POKINATOR: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to scgolfer [8h Jh]
Spratt Dog: calls $2
chloepear: folds
Graceman10: folds
POKINATOR: checks
WasabiMan: raises $2 to $4
YU_YING: folds
camp43: folds
scgolfer: calls $3
koolade: folds
Spratt Dog: calls $2
POKINATOR: folds
*** FLOP *** [Th 5h Qh]
scgolfer: checks
Spratt Dog: checks
WasabiMan: bets $2
scgolfer: raises $2 to $4
Spratt Dog: folds
WasabiMan: raises $2 to $6
scgolfer: calls $2
*** TURN *** [Th 5h Qh] [Qs]
scgolfer: bets $4
WasabiMan: calls $3.50 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [Th 5h Qh Qs] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
scgolfer: shows [8h Jh] (a flush, Queen high)
WasabiMan: shows [Ks Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
WasabiMan collected $34 from pot
WasabiMan said, "ty"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $35 | Rake $1
Board [Th 5h Qh Qs 7h]
Seat 1: Spratt Dog folded on the Flop
Seat 2: chloepear folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Graceman10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: POKINATOR folded before Flop
Seat 6: WasabiMan showed [Ks Ah] and won ($34) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 7: YU_YING folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: camp43 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: scgolfer (small blind) showed [8h Jh] and lost with a flush, Queen high
Seat 10: koolade (big blind) folded before Flop
I suppose he had the pot odds to call the river with absolutely nothing hoping for another heart???

Next:
At least I did get out of this one:
PokerStars Game #454298313: Hold'em Limit ($2/$4) - 2004/05/26 - 22:39:11 (ET)
Table 'Themisto' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: dab123 ($40 in chips)
Seat 2: chloepear ($238 in chips)
Seat 3: JC Penny ($21 in chips)
Seat 4: Graceman10 ($155 in chips)
Seat 5: POKINATOR ($35 in chips)
Seat 6: WasabiMan ($24 in chips)
Seat 7: YU_YING ($127.50 in chips)
Seat 9: scgolfer ($58.50 in chips)
Seat 10: koolade ($68 in chips)
scgolfer said, "lol"
YU_YING: posts small blind $1
scgolfer: posts big blind $2
dab123: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to scgolfer [Ad 9h]
koolade: folds
scgolfer said, "you guys are kiling me"
dab123: checks
chloepear: folds
JC Penny: folds
Graceman10: calls $2
POKINATOR: calls $2
WasabiMan: folds
YU_YING: calls $1
scgolfer: checks
*** FLOP *** [7d 9c 4d]
YU_YING: bets $2
scgolfer: calls $2
dab123: folds
Graceman10: folds
POKINATOR: calls $2
*** TURN *** [7d 9c 4d] [4h]
YU_YING: bets $4
scgolfer: raises $4 to $8
POKINATOR: calls $8
YU_YING: raises $4 to $12
scgolfer: folds
POKINATOR: calls $4
*** RIVER *** [7d 9c 4d 4h] [7h]
YU_YING: checks
POKINATOR: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
YU_YING: shows [3s 4s] (a full house, Fours full of Sevens)
POKINATOR: mucks hand
YU_YING collected $46 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $48 | Rake $2
Board [7d 9c 4d 4h 7h]
Seat 1: dab123 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: chloepear folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JC Penny folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Graceman10 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: POKINATOR mucked [Kh 9s] - two pair, Nines and Sevens
Seat 6: WasabiMan (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: YU_YING (small blind) showed [3s 4s] and won ($46) with a full house, Fours full of Sevens
Seat 9: scgolfer (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 10: koolade folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Next:
This was the worst

PokerStars Game #454296128: Hold'em Limit ($2/$4) - 2004/05/26 - 22:38:05 (ET)
Table 'Themisto' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: chloepear ($238 in chips)
Seat 3: JC Penny ($7 in chips)
Seat 4: Graceman10 ($155 in chips)
Seat 5: POKINATOR ($35 in chips)
Seat 6: WasabiMan ($28 in chips)
Seat 7: YU_YING ($131.50 in chips)
Seat 8: camp43 ($125 in chips)
Seat 9: scgolfer ($65.50 in chips)
Seat 10: koolade ($68 in chips)
WasabiMan: posts small blind $1
YU_YING: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to scgolfer [Ac Ts]
camp43: folds
camp43 is sitting out
camp43 has returned
scgolfer: calls $2
camp43 is sitting out
camp43 has returned
camp43 is sitting out
koolade: folds
chloepear: folds
JC Penny: raises $2 to $4
Graceman10: folds
POKINATOR: folds
WasabiMan: calls $3
YU_YING: calls $2
scgolfer: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [6c 2d As]
WasabiMan: checks
YU_YING: checks
scgolfer: bets $2
JC Penny: raises $1 to $3 and is all-in
WasabiMan: folds
YU_YING: folds
scgolfer: calls $1
*** TURN *** [6c 2d As] [2h]
dab123 joins the table at seat #1
*** RIVER *** [6c 2d As 2h] [7s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
scgolfer: shows [Ac Ts] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
JC Penny: shows [7h 7c] (a full house, Sevens full of Deuces)
JC Penny collected $21 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $22 | Rake $1
Board [6c 2d As 2h 7s]
Seat 2: chloepear folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JC Penny showed [7h 7c] and won ($21) with a full house, Sevens full of Deuces
Seat 4: Graceman10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: POKINATOR (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: WasabiMan (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: YU_YING (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: camp43 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: scgolfer showed [Ac Ts] and lost with two pair, Aces and Deuces
Seat 10: koolade folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Fricken river!!! Pair of sevens against aces!!!

Next:
She called everytime with a gut shot straight. Wouldn't have upset me if she turned over an ace low kicker.
******** # 5 **************
PokerStars Game #454319384: Tournament #1696503, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2004/05/26 - 22:50:01 (ET)
Table '1696503 1' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Cantonese (1170 in chips)
Seat 2: phillyflyers (1410 in chips)
Seat 3: danimal62 (1310 in chips)
Seat 4: ibppmd (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: tinytina1 (1230 in chips)
Seat 7: finlycpa (2845 in chips)
Seat 8: HAZNOLE (2640 in chips)
Seat 9: scgolfer (1425 in chips)
scgolfer: posts small blind 15
Cantonese: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to scgolfer [2d Ks]
phillyflyers: folds
danimal62: folds
ibppmd: calls 30
tinytina1: calls 30
finlycpa: folds
HAZNOLE: calls 30
scgolfer: calls 15
Cantonese: checks
*** FLOP *** [7h Ah Kh]
scgolfer: bets 120
Cantonese: folds
ibppmd: folds
tinytina1: calls 120
HAZNOLE: folds
*** TURN *** [7h Ah Kh] [8s]
scgolfer: bets 180
tinytina1: calls 180
*** RIVER *** [7h Ah Kh 8s] [Js]
scgolfer: bets 300
tinytina1: calls 300
*** SHOW DOWN ***
scgolfer: shows [2d Ks] (a pair of Kings)
tinytina1: shows [Ts Qc] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
tinytina1 collected 1350 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1350 | Rake 0
Board [7h Ah Kh 8s Js]
Seat 1: Cantonese (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: phillyflyers folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: danimal62 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: ibppmd folded on the Flop
Seat 6: tinytina1 showed [Ts Qc] and won (1350) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 7: finlycpa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: HAZNOLE (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: scgolfer (small blind) showed [2d Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings

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Fnord

05-27-2004, 04:46 PM

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Hand 1:
Fold pre-flop. J8s is ass in a raised 3-way pot. JTs is even a marginal call out of position.

Hand 2:
CALL THE FLOP!?!? You got a weak top pair, top kicker. Don't get cute and wait for someone to outdraw you on the turn, unless maybe if you're heads up. Raise and re-raise to limit the field. Cap it if they want. Then think about calling it down. Nice fold on the turn though. I have trouble with those...

Hand 3:
Fold pre-flop. If you absolutely must play it raise to scare away AJ and maybe AQ. Interesting play by 77, raising all-in to isolate you.

Hand 4:
Unsuited, dominated hand. Quality man...

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Toasty

05-27-2004, 05:03 PM

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I agree with Fnord here. Esp, hand 2 Top pair top kicker screams to be re-raised you might have gotten the FH to fold before he hit trips, it would also force anyone drawing to the

flush make a mistake by calling (hmm, well not a mistake $4 into a $14 pot, but its going to charge them more to draw).

BTW Fnord on Hand 3 the player was all in due to being a small stack, it was a 2/4 limit game.

Why people do that is beyond me, I always keep 12 BBs on hand to make sure I can cap every round if a monster comes my way...

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fishstick

05-27-2004, 05:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Toasty

Why people do that is beyond me, I always keep 12 BBs on hand to make sure I can cap every round if a monster comes my way...

my theory: it's a way of limiting their losses because they're not confident in their play. you can't lose what you don't have on the table.

scgolfer

05-28-2004, 12:39 AM

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I was definitely frustrated as you could see by me playing the crap hands in the first place. As I was writing the post I was thinking "I deserve to lose playing this crap." Looking at my stats, I was seeing way too many flops even if they were cheap and in relatively good position. Thanks for the analyses. You guys are the best.

Holy crap I cant play against Yoda!!

Fnord

05-28-2004, 02:12 AM

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Loose limps sink chips.

On a more serious note, if you want to play a little loose and still make money, try the .5/1 game at Party. With multiple other players playing worse hands badly, the ideal strategy actually calls for looser play. At worst, their mistakes cover the cost of yours. I had one guy call down my pair of Kings with pocket 5s all the way to the river. How can you not love that?

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