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12-14-2005, 03:29 PM
Post subject: Axs and suited connectors.
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Flush
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Ok, so poker tracker is telling me I am losing with Axs and suited connectors. Typically I can see hands where I limped in with only one limper in front, holding Axs or most suited connectors. I also find that more often than not I get raised behind and it costs an extra SB to see the flop.
In general how many limpers do you need in front, before you would consider calling ?
Let's say you are in MP1 or MP2 with several limpers in front and there are 2 aggresive opps behind you. What hands do you call with now ?
Let's say you are in HJ with several limpers ahead, if you have chosen your table well then the CO and BU should be tight. Should you be raising to buy the button or should you just call and see the flop as cheaply as possible.
Similarly, in the CO do you raise to buy the button or do you take your chance that most of the time the tighty on the button will fold anyway ?
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euphoricism
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Question 1) Three-Five is generally what I'm looking for, depending on the strength of my hand. I'll take less limpers with T9s than I'd want with 45s, just because my T9s has a slightly better chance of winning with top pair and my straight is to the "high end" rather than the possible "ass end" for the 45.
Question 2) The same, if not lower. The aggressive opponents behind you simply serve to build the pot when you hit and are easy check/raises.
Question 3) Depends if the rest of the table is generally passive or not. You can always default to a raise, it'll rarely be the wrong move. With suited connectors it also disguises the strength of your hand, but can screw you post flop if you whiff.
Question 4) Same answer.
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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Also note that a raise will often get the blinds out, which may or may not be good for you. Sometimes you can count on them to be extra implicit limpers.
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silverfist
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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What stakes are you playing? At low stakes, suited connectors are a gold mine, since people are so loose-passive.
Remember, also, that mathematically if you hit middle pair against two opponents or especially heads up in an unraised pot, you probably have the best hand. Even in a raised pot, you'll often have the best hand. Don't be too quick to give up on 87s if you get a J-8-5 flop. Jennifer Harmon suggests check-raising in a situation like this and then betting the turn. I've been fiddling with it online and it's a great strategy for middle pair. You can add to the value of your suited connectors by taking down some smaller pots when you catch a piece of the flop.
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