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**asdpikas** · 10-04-2009 04:32 PM

Full Tilt Limit Hold'em, $6.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with 10

, A

6 folds, Hero raises, BB calls

Flop: (4 SB) 4

, 6

, Q

(2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls

Turn: (3 BB) 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls

River: (5 BB) A

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls

Total pot: $54 (9 BB) | Rake: $2

**KoRnholio** · 10-04-2009 06:08 PM

Read? What's your plan on a blank river?

**asdpikas** · 10-04-2009 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by KoRnholio

Read? What's your plan on a blank river?

no reads, was planning on call down if blank, maybe fold on something bad like Kd, 8d, 7d

**LawDude** · 10-05-2009 05:33 AM

Pre-flop is fine.

Flop is fine.

Check-fold turn unless you have a specific read that villain will spew chips into you with a hand that you can beat.

**Chopper** · 10-05-2009 01:00 PM

nh.

on a blank, i c/c, but expect to lose. i just dont want villain to think he can bluff me off blind wars. he needs to hit a pair to win.

**BennyLaRue** · 10-05-2009 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by LawDude

Check-fold turn unless you have a specific read that villain will spew chips into you with a hand that you can beat.

You take that line more than once and you can have a whole night to look forward to of everyone floating you on the flop.

**LawDude** · 10-05-2009 04:02 PM

benny, this is an adjustment i have made in my game. i used to believe that i had to show down ace high enough to discourage players from betting me out of hands. however, it was costing me plenty of money, the pots i did win were small, and i didn't notice any great difference in the success of my unimproved hands.

so i switched to a read based approach, where i will show it down against bluffers when it isnLt that likely that they connected, while giving it up before it cost too much against many other players.

i will still show it down a lot more at higher limits. but i think a lot of players spend way too much money on BB's on the turn and river on hands that are pretty clearly behind.

the other thing is, even if you gain the image of giving up on hands, that can pay off when you have a made hand and you can get people to bluff into you.

10-04-2009 04:32 PM #1
asdpikas View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2007 Posts 1,072	ATs Full Tilt Limit Hold'em, $6.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com Preflop: Hero is SB with 10, A 6 folds, Hero raises, BB calls Flop: (4 SB) 4, 6, Q (2 players) Hero bets, BB calls Turn: (3 BB) 9 (2 players) Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls River: (5 BB) A (2 players) Hero checks, BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls Total pot: $54 (9 BB) \| Rake: $2
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10-04-2009 06:08 PM #2
KoRnholio View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2005 Posts 2,753 Location Canada	Read? What's your plan on a blank river?
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10-04-2009 07:37 PM #3
asdpikas View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Jul 2007 Posts 1,072	Originally Posted by KoRnholio Read? What's your plan on a blank river? no reads, was planning on call down if blank, maybe fold on something bad like Kd, 8d, 7d
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10-05-2009 05:33 AM #4
LawDude View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Feb 2009 Posts 940	Pre-flop is fine. Flop is fine. Check-fold turn unless you have a specific read that villain will spew chips into you with a hand that you can beat.

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10-05-2009 01:00 PM #5
Chopper View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Dec 2005 Posts 4,612 Location St. Louis, MO	nh. on a blank, i c/c, but expect to lose. i just dont want villain to think he can bluff me off blind wars. he needs to hit a pair to win.
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10-05-2009 01:37 PM #6
BennyLaRue View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Sep 2007 Posts 5,490	Originally Posted by LawDude Check-fold turn unless you have a specific read that villain will spew chips into you with a hand that you can beat. You take that line more than once and you can have a whole night to look forward to of everyone floating you on the flop.

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10-05-2009 04:02 PM #7
LawDude View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Feb 2009 Posts 940	benny, this is an adjustment i have made in my game. i used to believe that i had to show down ace high enough to discourage players from betting me out of hands. however, it was costing me plenty of money, the pots i did win were small, and i didn't notice any great difference in the success of my unimproved hands. so i switched to a read based approach, where i will show it down against bluffers when it isnLt that likely that they connected, while giving it up before it cost too much against many other players. i will still show it down a lot more at higher limits. but i think a lot of players spend way too much money on BB's on the turn and river on hands that are pretty clearly behind. the other thing is, even if you gain the image of giving up on hands, that can pay off when you have a made hand and you can get people to bluff into you.

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