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RonBurgundy
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03-27-2006, 02:30 PM
Post subject: AQs vs a PFR
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#1 (permalink)
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Utrecht
Posts: 25
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villain is 28/9 (VP$IP / PFR ??)
was i wrong by cold calling in the first place?
i feel like i paid him off too much, was there place for a fold somewhere?
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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q , A.
3 folds, MP1 raises, Hero calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 3 folds.
Flop: (7.50 SB) 8, J , 9 (3 players)
MP1 bets, Hero raises, CO folds, MP1 3-bets, Hero calls.
Turn: (6.75 BB) A (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero calls.
River: (10.75 BB) K (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks.
Final Pot: 10.75 BB
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thenonsequitur
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03-27-2006, 02:57 PM
Post subject: Re: AQs vs a PFR
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#2 (permalink)
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Full House
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Location: Location
Posts: 637
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I 3-bet preflop. Post flop looks good to me.
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Kessler
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Las Vegas
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Why raise the flop? I see CO folded, was that the idea?
-Kes
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If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.
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Nehmer
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Full House
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Decatur, IL
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I'm with kessler and thenon. As in I 3-bet preflop, but am also wondering why you raise that flop given your preflop play.
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Ltrain
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Miami, Florida
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His preflop aggression number is not outrageous so in EP, using just this number, he is likely raising premium hands. Still, you should three bet him PF.
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"Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. Then you are a mile away, and have his shoes." - Anon.
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
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nevermind
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pokerfanatic
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03-30-2006, 03:51 AM
Post subject: Re: AQs vs a PFR
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by thenonsequitur
I 3-bet preflop. Post flop looks good to me.
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if he 3 bets PF post flop lines change....
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thenonsequitur
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03-30-2006, 04:30 AM
Post subject: Re: AQs vs a PFR
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#8 (permalink)
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Full House
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Location: Location
Posts: 637
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by pokerfanatic
if he 3 bets PF post flop lines change....
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You're right about that. What I should have said is just that--"I 3 bet this preflop and post-flop dynamics will be different".
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RonBurgundy
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Utrecht
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btw i normally reraise as well preflop,
but i was just trying this out, i had read in SSH as well that this is almost like the only hand with which cold calling a raise is ok ..
well,
i reraise on the flop because i have 2 overcards, a gutshot and a backdoor flush possibilty so i want to cut down the field or anyone who is holding hands like Q8, Q9 and such... so yes i wanted others to fold.
is this wrong then?
but let's say i had 3 bet preflop, and he bets out on that flop, should any of you suggest folding in that situation? or would then this post flop play be good ?
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saywhat2
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Straight
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 113
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How do I know what won the hand?
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Demiparadigm
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Party 6 max
Posts: 1,602
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by saywhat2
How do I know what won the hand?
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You don't, and you're not meant to.
Poker is not abut results, but making the correct decisions throughout the hand.
The sooner, and more thoroughly you understand this, the better off you will be.
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To win in poker you only need to be one step ahead of your opponents. Two steps may be detrimental.
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Xanadu
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Full House
Join Date: May 2005
Location: st. paul, MO
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I think the preflop decision depends on the table you are at. AQs is an awesome hand to play multi-way, so if you think a cold call will encourage more cold calls and the blinds to come in, I think the cold call is a good play. If those left to act outside the blinds are unlikely to cold call, I would raise to force out the blinds.
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