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AQo hand from UTG + 1
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lonnie
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11-12-2004, 11:07 PM
Post subject: AQo hand from UTG + 1
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 923
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Lots of turnover at this table, don't have a good read on my opps in this hand. Table has been TP overall.
Played well?
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed)
Preflop: lhoney2 is UTG+1 with A , Q .
UTG calls, lhoney2 raises, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) K , Q , 8 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, lhoney2 bets, BB calls, UTG raises, lhoney2 calls, BB calls.
Turn: (6.25 BB) A (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, lhoney2 bets, BB raises, UTG calls, lhoney2 3-bets, BB caps, UTG calls, lhoney2 calls.
River: (18.25 BB) 6 (3 players)
BB bets, UTG folds, lhoney2 raises, BB 3-bets, lhoney2 calls.
Final Pot: 24.25 BB
Main Pot: 24.25 BB, between BB and lhoney2.
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lonnie
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
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And a few more from the same session...
Hand #2
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (7 handed)
Preflop: lhoney2 is Button with J , J .
MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, lhoney2 raises, SB folds, BB calls, MP2 calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) 2 , 8 , 7 (4 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, lhoney2 bets, BB calls, MP2 calls.
Turn: (4.75 BB) 4 (4 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, lhoney2 bets, BB raises, MP2 folds, lhoney2 calls.
River: (8.75 BB) A (3 players)
BB checks, lhoney2 checks.
Final Pot: 8.75 BB
Main Pot: 8.75 BB, between BB, UTG and lhoney2.
$$$$$$$$$$$
Hand 3
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)
Preflop: lhoney2 is MP1 with A , K .
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, lhoney2 raises, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) 6 , A , 4 (3 players)
BB bets, lhoney2 raises, Button folds, BB calls.
Turn: (5.25 BB) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, lhoney2 bets, BB raises, lhoney2 3-bets, BB calls.
River: (11.25 BB) K (2 players)
BB checks, lhoney2 bets, BB calls.
Final Pot: 13.25 BB
Main Pot: 13.25 BB, between BB and lhoney2.
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fishstick
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Full House
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Carlsbad, CA
Posts: 1,405
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hand 1
flop
- BB has ace something, but not AK, maybe AJ/AT, or even a passive AQ?
- UTG has a king, but not AK or KQ
your play is fine - nothing to be gained from capping it (informationally)
turn
- BB hits his ace, thus the check raise and cap
- UTG checks as well, so i'd say definitely not AK
3 bet it as you did
river
- useless card - couldn't of helped BB, so if you believe you have the best hand, cap it for value.
am i close? don't tell me BB hit a set with 88 or slowplayed a monster set. 
***edited***
hand 2
looks good - i like the river check. we discussed this earlier.
hand 3
i don't get the BB's turn check raise, and then check/call on the flop. i'd bet the river as you did, and take a chance that he doesn't have the 4 (which he doesn't appear to have).
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lonnie
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
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OK, here they are again, with results.
Hand 1
You ever get the feeling in the middle of the hand that you are behind, or that your opponent has sprung a trap? I never had that feeling in this hand, I was positive this was a winner. Shocked to see my opp with AK at the showdown.
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BB has ace something, but not AK, maybe AJ/AT, or even a passive AQ?
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Exactly the read I had, Fishstick. I was thinking AJ or something the whole way. Glad I'm not the only one getting a bad read here.
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A , Q .
UTG calls, Hero raises, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) K , Q , 8 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG raises, Hero calls, BB calls.
Turn: (6.25 BB) A (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, BB raises, UTG calls, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, UTG calls, Hero calls.
River: (18.25 BB) 6 (3 players)
BB bets, UTG folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 24.25 BB
Results in white below:
BB has Ks Ad (two pair, aces and kings).
Hero has Ac Qd (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: BB wins 24.25 BB.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Hand 2
Felt like an idiot at showdown, but I figured my opp was calling me down with something. Maybe Asomething overs... Kinda weak.
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (7 handed)
Preflop: Hero is Button with J , J .
MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, MP2 calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) 2 , 8 , 7 (4 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, MP2 calls.
Turn: (4.75 BB) 4 (4 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, BB raises, MP2 folds, Hero calls.
River: (8.75 BB) A (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.
Final Pot: 8.75 BB
Results in white below:
BB has 9d 9h (one pair, nines).
UTG doesn't show.
Hero has Jh Jd (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins 8.75 BB.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Hand 3
This hand felt good, jammed my AK down opps throat. YEH! This was supposed to be what my opp had in hand 1.
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A , K .
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, Hero raises, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) 6 , A , 4 (3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, Button folds, BB calls.
Turn: (5.25 BB) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls.
River: (11.25 BB) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.
Final Pot: 13.25 BB
Results in white below:
BB has Js Ad (two pair, aces and fours).
Hero has Ac Kd (two pair, aces and kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.25 BB.
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zenbitz
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Hand 1 - that is one sweet slow play. You 2 bet for him, then he has best hand and totally throws you Turn/River. Interesting question as to whether it was intentional or not. I would flag that guy for future reference, tho.
Hand 2 - I see a few hands like this with OK players. Often I get a split or something. You both had the same hand (over pocket pair), until the river, when the A came out. I see stuff like this when me and opp both have AK/AQ with A/K/Q out there and split.
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lonnie
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Zenbitz -
Hand 1 - the thing that really threw me...he did a stop and go. He raised the flop. Then he flat called the turn when he improved to top 2 pair. I don't know what he was thinking, unless he wanted to try and keep a few callers in the hand or something. He might have also assumed I would do all the betting for him, so he could disguise his strength. Looks like a sharky play the more I look at it. Very sneaky.
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ChezJ
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Full House
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Hand 1 - the thing that really threw me...he did a stop and go. He raised the flop. Then he flat called the turn when he improved to top 2 pair.
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entirely backwards... the BB smoothcalled the flop with TPTK and check-raised the turn. excellent play. i would do this even without two pair on the turn.
re hand 2, JJ vs 99, that reminds me of friday night when my JJ got crushed on a ragged board by 99 who hit a set. to make matters worse, the idiot re-raised me pre-flop with that marginal holding. lucky bastard.
ChezJ
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Fnord
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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Hand 1:
Talked about this in IRC...
Hand 2:
Bet the river
Hand 3:
I'm less inclined to 3-bet the turn in position. Let him lead the river and see where you stand. A better hand is less likely to re-raise you there too.
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