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AidanN20
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12-07-2005, 10:55 AM
Post subject: Anyone think the players are worse in badbeat party rooms?
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 106
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I was just watching some 2/4 and 3/6 games in the badbeat area while playing normal 2/4...
Just from the 30 minutes i went looking at different tables..it seemed there were 1-2 more to the flop on average, with a bit more fishiness because i would guess most of the TAggy players (like myself) dont waste their time losing the extra .50 a hand (which adds up to alot over time)
Anyone else ever looked into it? If the room was better and more profitable it would more than make up for the loss of the .50 extra rake.. and the "who knows " factor, there is that lottery type chance one day youll be part of table share for alot of money.
Any thoughts?
(also whats the odds of hitting that jackpot, anyone know?)
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thenonsequitur
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12-07-2005, 02:37 PM
Post subject: Re: Anyone think the players are worse in badbeat party room
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Full House
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Posts: 637
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I've also noticed that the players are, in general, relatively weaker on the bad beat tables, and people at these tables also like to chase straight flushes more than usual. But I think good table selection practices can usually find you non-bad-beat tables that are just as good. So instead of choosing from the top 20% of bad beat tables, for example, you choose from the top 10% of regular tables (I'm making up the numbers, but you get the idea).
OTOH, if you only play at the bad beat tables when the jackpot is bigger than X (I don't care to do the actual formulation of X), it will be theoretically a small amount +EV to play at these tables...in the LOOOOOOONG run. After enough hands of losing .50 each on your winning hands but winning rare jackpots you will be ahead. But I would argue that you can't really play enough hands to realistically gain from the long-run effect that the big jackpots have so you will probably just notice the -.50/hand on your winning hands. I am arguing this without doing any math, so my intuition could just be wrong.
And playing when the jackpot is smaller than X is just mathematicaly -EV.
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Kessler
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 117
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I play B&M at the Palms in Vegas occasionally, and they have a ton of jackpots. They pay every quad, every suit of royal, and straight flush 7 high through king high; with each having it's own jackpot ranging from $50-$599.
I would agree that Bad Beat/jackpot tables are looser than normal. Players will flop any pocket pair, any suited connector/gapper, and chase the whole way. IMHO
-Kessler
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outphase
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 949
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in a local (Oklahoma is local to Texas  ) B&M, there's a $10K+ badbeat jackpot in effect at all times, standard AAAKK or better being beat using both cards in both hands, but there's also a high hand jackpot every 1 or 2 hours on Wed/Thur. You just need the highest hand of that time block across all tables and you get $300. No splits and first royal takes it down right away.
These jackpots are nice little side things, but the constant $1/hand + rake is a bitch
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