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Old 12-30-2005, 02:12 AM     Post subject: Anyone noticed increased donkbetting lately? #1 (permalink)  
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Not sure if its the holiday season but I'm seeing WAY more than usual people donkbetting and stop'n'going at 5/10 6max. I don't know how to counter this!
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:21 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Its like everyone got hepfap for xmas and is donkbetting everything.
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Old 12-30-2005, 02:54 AM     Post subject: Re: Anyone noticed increased donkbetting lately? #3 (permalink)  
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Not sure if its the holiday season but I'm seeing WAY more than usual people donkbetting and stop'n'going at 5/10 6max. I don't know how to counter this!
Quit making thin raises with position. Raising for free cards with overcards is not a great play.
If you have a hand and raise the flop, raise the donk too.
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I think thats probably a key thing I'm fucking up.

Flop is XXX and I have AQ unimproved. Guy donkbets, I raise trying to get a free card. I should probably just let it go, and punish him when I hit.

Few people donkbet without a pair or atleast the draw. In fact, it seems everyone donkbets their flush draw now, praying to be raised.
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Old 01-02-2006, 06:44 AM     Post subject: Re: Anyone noticed increased donkbetting lately? #5 (permalink)  
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Not sure if its the holiday season but I'm seeing WAY more than usual people donkbetting and stop'n'going at 5/10 6max. I don't know how to counter this!
Speaking about everyone reading the same book, what I am noticing at 10/20 6H is that people are cold-calling more with big Aces, and 3betting preflop with J10s, J9s, QJs... 78s, etc.

I realize that this is supposed to give the 3-betting player the oppotunity to win by hitting his hand or by having the Ace be a scare card for the rest of the players (thus inducing folds).

However, with lots of players doing this now, when an Ace hits the board, they raise and re-reraise each other to rep the Ace, and at showdown nobody has one, and often not much of anything else.

It sure has made it tough to put people on hands, though, as many will play 910suited the same as KK, and it's hard to tell when u have been beat versus pushed off a hand.
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 That is interesting. I recently moved to 10/20 6 max tables for a little bit.

I think that when people do this it is definately -EV. Although I've been doing more fight fire with water lately.


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Old 01-02-2006, 04:41 PM #7 (permalink)  
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That is interesting. I recently moved to 10/20 6 max tables for a little bit.

I think that when people do this it is definately -EV. Although I've been doing more fight fire with water lately.
Honestly, I was thinking about this, if you are trying to fight fire with fire against a decent post-flop player that is Argo I think that you only win the least when ahead and loose the most when behind unless you both have absolute monster hands or something... I think sometimes fighting fire with fire works IF they can't find a place to fold worse hands, IF they can well I’m thinking that you win and loose the same amounts by using a water method...

Of course I have no proof of this thought just something I was thinking about and toying with trying… Does anyone want to share an opinion?
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