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Old 09-12-2007, 10:25 PM     Post subject: anyone find a fold here? #1 (permalink)  
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UTG just sat down so no reads.

Btn is 60/0 over about 200 hands and pretty passive postflop. Somehow he's been winning lots of hands, but hard to know if he's just getting lucky or playing well postflop. Maybe a bit of both.


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Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
UTG raises, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) , , (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Button 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG caps, Button calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.25 BB) (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG raises, Button calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 24.25 BB
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Old 09-12-2007, 10:47 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I ditch as soon as the button comes alive with the turn 3-bet. Passive guys don't all of a sudden get animated on boards like this. Pocket Queens or Jacks are likely held by at least one of these guys and AK is another distinct possibility given the play.

The river bet is extremely wishful thinking.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:15 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 I probably bet-call the turn, check-call the river. But then again I am awful at 6max.

That Button raise on the turn is really bothersome though. Heads up against UTG I'd for sure show it down, since he could be going apeshit with KK/AQ/AT here.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:23 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Betting this flop is spew, you're gonna get raised because it nailed the EP raise range.

Turn is probably a crying fold. I like the lead out though.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:01 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Yeah i'm thinking a puke-fold to the 3bet on the turn was in order here.

Kind of had it in my head that even Donkey Kong wouldn't cold call a pfr with QQ or JJ and let the BB in cheap. Then again his raise button doesn't work pf so i should've considered that.
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Old 09-13-2007, 01:37 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 Betting the turn = good, so is folding to the three-bet...

why the river raise? If i got this far I would be check-calling the river and losing..
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:50 AM #7 (permalink)  
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I think given the turn action its a clear fold assuming that UTG isnt a complete maniac.

By this point I really think you have to put UTG on JJ, QQ, KK or KA, JJ, QQ and AA more likely due to you holding a king. By the time the button 3-bets I'd say its fairly likely you are drawing dead or to a split pot at best.

IMO the best possible outcome here is that UTG is waaay overplaying AA and you split the pot with the button.


Like I said, I probably wouldn't have folded either but I think the river is a clear check/call
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:10 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Flop is a check call, you have the bottom pair, you generally shouldn't screw around with the raiser on a board where AK is the nuts. After check calling the flop I don't mind leading out on the turn with trips, and I'm going to see the river almost every time here, but I'm not hoping for a 9. I'm hoping for a king on the river to give me a full house and anyone with an Ace a stright, and even then i'm leading the river and just calling a raise because UTG probably has QQ since he capped the turn and raised pre-flop, AK is too weak to cap the turn with IMO but I wouldn't rule it out vs. inexperienced opponents.

I would never lead out on this river, I would probably check fold it, he wouldn't cap the turn with KK, KQ, he probably wouldn't PFR K9, you have to give UTG credit for AK minimum when he caps the turn on a paired board, I'd rather see a J or Q on the river than a 9, at least there would be the possibility that they both had AK and you sucked out.

btw: UTG: QQ button: JT ?
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:53 AM #9 (permalink)  
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UTG: JTs
Btn: JJ
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