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pokerlearner
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11-29-2005, 08:28 PM
Post subject: any thoughts on middle offsuit connectors
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Flush
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: california
Posts: 366
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Currently I never play these period (from any position). the lowest offsuit connectors i play is J-10 from MP3 onwards if 3-4 people in the pot. Fold JQo early on.
but the $6-$12 game i play some days is very loose passive preflop and some days is very aggressive preflop.
If i am at a loose passive preflop table should i play 5-60, 6-7o, 7-8o etc from MP1 onwards and how many people at minimum would i need to have in the flop ?
am i giving up much by not playing middle offsuit connectors in pretty loose passive games full of chasers ?? You can make the assumption that i would proceed postflop only if i have flopped trips, a good oesd or 2 pair on a raggeddy board. but what is the ev of these kind of hands ?
Disclaimer:
I might have posted this question long time back but wanted to revisit it and settle the doubt in my mind once and for all
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Your place or my place
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At this type of table its probably about 0EV.
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siknd
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Flush
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 359
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it seems to me that these hands should work well in limit, due to the fact that in multi-way pots you will normally be proceeding with pot odds?
you should probably show them down at least occasionally in order to represent a looser player, if in fact you feel uncomfortable playing non-paint.
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'If you think a weakness can be turned into a strength, I hate to tell you this, but that's another weakness. '
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Ltrain
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Miami, Florida
Posts: 514
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I will play them from the SB after at least 4 limpers (1-2 Blind structure), maybe the button if it is an "all play". O.W., you lose too much by not having them suited IMO. If I am going to play them however, I would rather have 5-6o or 6-7o than 8-9o or 9-10o. With that many limpers, my one pair won't mean anything anyway, and if the higher connectors hit, there is a higher likelihood you will have the 2nd highest straight.
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"Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. Then you are a mile away, and have his shoes." - Anon.
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Kessler
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 117
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Yeah, I consider unsuited connectors to be junk most of the time at any position. If I do play them, they need to be suited. You give up a lot by not having the flush draw to back you up. Also, if you're anywhere from 56s - 9Ts, and only flop 1 pair with no draw, you're probably not going to win with what you have. Either by your pair being beat by the river, or you're outkicked. I'd call one small bet on the flop, and fold the turn without improving to 2 pair, trips, or a flush/str8 draw. But the danger of connectors is that if you catch 2 pair, you're almost always vulnerable to the straight, but it's tough to not call down with it. Not a good spot. 
-Kessler
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If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.
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Ayodeji13
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 35
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I only play them from late position (Button, CO) with at least 2 callers b4 me, and from then on i play them like one would play a weak pocket pair in NL (i.e., they are very easy to let go, even when in position)
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