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fooo

03-20-2006, 09:02 PM Post subject: any leaks?

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Posts: 33

Approximate hand descriptions from live 3/6, 9 player tables, comments appreciated. I think these may be just about all the hands I played past the flop and half of the hands I played at all in my hour of play.

1. Qh 8h
MP, HJ, SB call, Hero (BB) checks
Flop: Qs Qd 9c
SB bets, Hero calls, HJ calls
Turn: 3h
SB checks, Hero bets, HJ, SB fold

2. Ac Ah
UTG, MP, MP+1, HJ, CO call, Hero (BN) raises, SB folds, BB and 5 others call
Flop: Ts 6d 2c
Checked around, Hero bets, UTG, MP, CO call
Turn: 8h
Checked around, Hero bets, MP, CO call
River: Kd
Checked around, Hero bets, MP folds, CO calls

3. Kd Kc
UTG+1, MP+1, HJ, CO call, Hero (BN) raises, SB, BB, UTG+1, MP+1, HJ, CO call
Flop: Qs 3d 3h
Checked to MP+1, MP+1 bets, HJ, CO fold, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, MP+1 calls
Turn: 8d
BB checks, MP+1 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, MP+1 raises, Hero calls, BB calls
River: 6c
BB checks, MP+1 bets, Hero calls, BB calls

4. Ac Jd
MP+1, HJ, Hero (CO) call, BN, SB fold, BB checks
Flop: 6d 3s 2h
BB, MP+1 check, HJ bets, Hero raises, BB, MP+1 fold, HJ calls
Turn: 5h
HJ checks, Hero checks
River: Kd
HJ checks, Hero bets, HJ calls

5. Tc 9d
UTG+1, MP, HJ, Hero (CO), BN, SB call, BB checks
Flop: Jd Qs 8d
SB, BB, UTG+1, MP, HJ check, Hero bets, BN calls, SB, BB, UTG+1 fold, MP calls, HJ folds
Turn: 3c
MP checks, Hero bets, BN folds, MP folds

6. Ah 6h
UTG, MP+1, CO call, BN raises, SB, Hero (BB), UTG, MP+1, CO call
Flop: 7h 8s 9h
SB bets, Hero raises, UTG, CO, BN, SB call
Turn: 7s
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG, BN, SB call
River: 2s
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, BN checks

7. 7c 7d
MP, HJ, CO call, Hero (BN) calls, SB call, BB checks
Flop: Kd 6s 5d
SB, BB check, MP bets, HJ, CO call, Hero folds, SB folds, BB calls

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03-20-2006, 09:49 PM

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Join Date: Aug 2004

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leak 1. use the hand converter.

1) fine
2) standard
3) what's your read on MP+1? 3betting the turn is pretty tempting
4) raise preflop. as played, i check behind the river. you only fold worser hands and get calls from better hands.
5) standard
6) standard
7) standard

Xanadu

03-20-2006, 09:50 PM

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Hand 4, I raise preflop, and bet turn.

Hand 5, I fold preflop, otherwise fine.

The rest, I don't see any huge mistakes.

pokerfanatic

03-20-2006, 09:57 PM

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First thought is how the hell do you beat the rake at 3/6 live?

Hand 1:
I raise the flop live fish will call down anything believe me, I get as many beats in as possible when I think I’m ahead at this low level of live play... also once they call the flop they fell committed to there hands to see the river usually...

Hand 2:
I play it the same ram and jam with what is probably the best hand till told otherwise...

Hand 3: I don't know about this one it takes a read for me not to 3 bet the turn... would he really have a 3 in his hand is my question to myself when I mean read... if I think the answer is no well I can't think he has 88, maybe QQ but wouldn't QQ raise PF? Or is he that passive, if he is passive I might consider a call then c/f on the river unimproved... reads are a blessing here...

Hand 4:
Raise PF, you're in LP with a strong hand you want to get button out and put pressure on blinds not to come in with any 2 (though they might anyways they have to pay more for it)... After you raise PF the hand plays completely different... you end up C beating the flop when checked to and hopefully you can take it down on the flop or turn, if not you till got outs for the river... it seems like I am seeing a pattern of a bit of tightness at this table including yourself... as in weak tight not tight argo...

Hand 5:
Do I need to comment on this?

Hand 6:
Ok gamboling PF that's fine with that action, I might not raise that flop with FD and OESD (ass end) unless I thought I would get a bettor hand out and a worse hand call then I would probably just call with that draw you have a big draw you want people in not out... other then that I think you played it fine...

Hand 7:
It seems you limp a little too much in LP, you need to be raising PF about 8-10% of your hands, and it might change given the tables play... Anyways, you get 9:1 on your call on the flop figure you get 6bb (on avg a raise and a couple callers) on the turn if you hit, so you getting 9sb + 6bb to call which is 21:1 on your 22:1 shot so it's thin... so I think fold is fine...

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fooo

03-20-2006, 10:49 PM

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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Definitely not a tight table, but I might be playing too weak tight. I mean, I was thinking about laying down hand #3. She was playing loose aggressive, playing a lot of shitty cards, opening a lot of bets, but she would pretty much never play back if raised or even called unless she had a real powerhouse; she'd open a lot of pots on the flop and check-call turn and check-fold river a lot.

On hand #4, I really dislike playing moderate hands like AJo that I think play poorly multi-way for big pots when I'm pretty sure that a lot of people are coming along for the ride. Sounds like maybe that's a leak right there. I'd also seen the villain on this hand play a hand really aggressively and laydown on the turn to a lead bet when a king came up after a low flop, saying that he had a mid-pocket pair but lower than a king. Thought I could get him to fold what turned out to be his Q3o.

On hand #6, I figured the table was loose enough and that there were enough ways for people to hit the flop that I wanted to pack my draw (I think anyone with a 6, 7, 8, 9, T, J, maybe even a 5, plus overcards or hearts would've called my raise), and I did get plenty of callers behind. And, no, I wasn't counting the tens as four full outs.

On hands #1 and #5, which were the only ones I remember winning during this session, I guess I was just wondering if there was any way to extract more value. I'm guessing I should just get used to the variance on those other big fat WTF beats. One more, from the previous session:

Ad Ah in CO, 3 limpers, Hero raises, BN, BB and original 3 limpers call.
Flop: Th 5s 2d
Check to Hero, BN accidentally tries to bet out of turn, but I've started to bet, so I bet. BN, three others call.
Turn: 5d
Check to Hero, Hero bets, BN, three others call
River: Ts
MP+1 bets
--> I'm thinking folding here is weak tight, although I thought about it
Hero calls
BN raises
MP+1 calls
--> I'm thinking folding here is smart
Hero folds and thinks live poker is rigged after two players catch a one-outer on the river.

OK, maybe need to loosen up a little, but I'm starting to feel like the idiot "is it possible to not be able to win" poster (the possibility that it might actually be impossible given the rake notwithstanding). I'm raising all my premium group 1 hands anywhere; raising mid-to-big suited connectors when a lot of people have limped to me in the button or one of the blinds to try to hit the flop hard and tie people to the pot; but I'm not raising mid-pairs or AJ and worse types of hands unless I'm at least in HJ or later and there's been no more than one limper.

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