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Laeelin
Old 03-29-2005, 05:02 PM     Post subject: Another Silly Question... #1 (permalink)  
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I’m used to playing NL holdem, and I’m having problems knowing when to fold in limit…

For example:

I have JT in late position and limp in with 2 other people.

Flop is TsJs2s

UTG raises, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises, UTG caps….

I may have the best hand, or may have no chance.

He is showing strength, but it still “just one bet”

Calling this bet puts me at 1bet into an 8 bet pot…

He could call the turn, I would bet, and he reraises, I call, he bets river, I call for a total of 7 more bets at a pot with a total of 21 bets.

Or he could bet the turn/river leaving me with 5 bets into a 17 bet pot

Assuming no read, when/where should I fold, or would that be worth calling all the way?

He could have QsJd, he could have 8s8d, he could have As2s, he could have so many things that I beat or that beat me.

How should I play this?

Currently I would call/check to the flop, though if he just checks the turn/river I would bet hoping for a fold.

(All this assumes that turn/river are blanks)

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Old 03-29-2005, 05:09 PM #2 (permalink)  
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it looks to me like he might have a pair and the flush draw. im pretty sure you have the best hand at this point.
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Old 03-29-2005, 05:13 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Who bet first on the flop? I think you are missing a bet. I assume he c/r you?

Without a read, I am seeing a showdown. He may just have the A for the flush or he may have also have a J. You still have 4 outs to the boat. The only time I might drop is if the 4th flush hits the board. He is playing this pretty fast so I am not conviced he flopped his flush.
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Old 03-29-2005, 05:21 PM #4 (permalink)  
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It's not a real game, I was just trying to give an example...

Basically, how do you tell when to fold when you have a good (but non nut) hand?

Or is it normally worth taking all the way to the showdown?

Some are easy like four of a flush on the table, and 2 reraisers.

But other times you have 4 to a flush and, you probally have the loseing hand. If you raise, then you will lose more, but if you fold and he doesnt have the flush you lose it all.

calling another 5 bets with 2 pair into what would be a 17 bet pot

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Old 03-29-2005, 06:18 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Laeelin
It's not a real game, I was just trying to give an example...

Basically, how do you tell when to fold when you have a good (but non nut) hand?

Or is it normally worth taking all the way to the showdown?

Some are easy like four of a flush on the table, and 2 reraisers.

But other times you have 4 to a flush and, you probally have the loseing hand. If you raise, then you will lose more, but if you fold and he doesnt have the flush you lose it all.

calling another 5 bets with 2 pair into what would be a 17 bet pot
Count your pot odds and add in your implied odds. You've got 4 outs to the boat which will happen about 1/6 of the time, and will likely win you 3-4 more big bets if you hit. Add these to the pot total, for the turn and river. However, this shouldn't determine whether you fold or not, but perhaps that you slow down a bit, and go into call down.

I actually would see this person either has a pair and a high spade (KsTx) or a baby flush. Both benefit from aggressiveness in this spot.
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