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cartilago77
Old 07-06-2005, 06:18 AM     Post subject: Another Quad hand Submitted for Flaming #1 (permalink)  
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How could I have played this better to maximize profit? Position sucks but I still played it badly.

Stage #150143472: Holdem Normal $5/$10 [ 2005-07-06 02:05:37 ]
Seat 1 - DOUCHEBAG77 $285 in chips
Seat 2 - JDWATTERS77 $174 in chips
Seat 3 - A066751 $73.50 in chips
Seat 4 - BIG_MONEY33 $441.03 in chips
Seat 5 - TIRAS $104.50 in chips
Seat 6 - CHIPMASTER88 $682.34 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 2] ***
A066751 - Post small blind $2
BIG_MONEY33 - Post big blind $5
DOUCHEBAG77 - Pocket [Kc,9s]
TIRAS - Folds
CHIPMASTER88 - Folds
DOUCHEBAG77 - Calls $5
JDWATTERS77 - Raises $5 to $10
A066751 - Calls $8
BIG_MONEY33 - Calls $5
DOUCHEBAG77 - Calls $5
*** FLOP [Qd,9h,9c] ***
A066751 - Checks
BIG_MONEY33 - Checks
DOUCHEBAG77 - Checks
JDWATTERS77 - Bets $5
A066751 - Calls $5
BIG_MONEY33 - Folds
DOUCHEBAG77 - Calls $5
*** TURN [Qd,9h,9c,6h] ***
A066751 - Checks
DOUCHEBAG77 - Bets $10
JDWATTERS77 - Calls $10
A066751 - Calls $10
*** RIVER [Qd,9h,9c,6h,9d] ***
A066751 - Bets $10
DOUCHEBAG77 - Raises $10 to $20
JDWATTERS77 - Folds
A066751 - Calls $10
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DOUCHEBAG77 - Show cards [Kc,9s]
A066751 - Lost mucks
*** RESULT ***
Total Pot($125) Rake ($3)
Board [Qd,9h,9c,6h,9d]
DOUCHEBAG77 - Total ($122) HI$122)Four of a kind, nines [Kc,9s - P:9s,B:9h,B:9d,B:9c,P:Kc]
JDWATTERS77 - Folded on the RIVER
A066751 - HI: [Lost mucks]
BIG_MONEY33 - Folded on the FLOP
TIRAS - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
CHIPMASTER88 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
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Old 07-06-2005, 06:46 AM #2 (permalink)  
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don't gaybet the turn, check/raise it (gaybet is a term i picked up here meaning check/call one street then bet the next)

This may not be optimal play, but you did ask how to extract and that's one of the ways i can think of
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Old 07-06-2005, 07:04 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Gaybet, bi-bet, straightbet....it's all good. i played the hand HORRIBLY in my opinion so the more trashing the better. I have a lot to learn about limit and the criticism can only help me improve.
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:49 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Position sucks
Yeah...trying to figure out why you're in the hand to begin with???

But as for extracting value...I think c/r is best on turn then obviously bet/raise the river. The gaybet is a strange play unless you know other players will not respect it.
Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
 
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:59 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Can someone post a link for me pointing to the "gaybet" topic?
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Old 07-06-2005, 10:44 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Here ya go...found it. Fnord explains it about half way down.

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ghlight=gaybet
Superb play sir...I always call 20% of my stack off with a gutshot draw. Excuse me while I race for my wallet.
 
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Old 07-06-2005, 12:39 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Preflop is really bad. Fold, or if you think you can steal the blinds raise. Do not open-limp in LP especially with a hand like K9o.

I'd probably check/raise the flop, given your flop check/call you should check/raise the turn, your bet killed your action.
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:36 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Other than playing preflop poorly I think you played it fine.

Your biggest worry on that flop (besides QQ, 9Q or 9A) is TJ and with your K even if someone has that they only have 4 outs. So I don't mind you trying to keep people in the hand and not check raising the flop.

The turn is semi scary cuz now there's a flush draw too. Check raise maybe woulda been better but you also mighta scared JD out at that point.

You made a bunch with quads - that doesn't happen that often. Be happy.
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Old 07-07-2005, 03:21 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 You're open call is horrible. Have you read Hyper's 6 max guide? NEVER open limp in a 6 max game, its as simple as that. Once you get that down you're position isnt horrible, considering you have position on most of your opponents. Therefore, the only incorrect play in this situation is to not bet/raise at every opportunity available.


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