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Analysis on specific hands: My 2nd worst hand !! AQs
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pokerlearner
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09-16-2005, 03:18 AM
Post subject: Analysis on specific hands: My 2nd worst hand !! AQs
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Flush
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: california
Posts: 366
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Hi guys,
I have always had trouble playing AQ0 and AQs. Even during 0.5-1$ limit I was barely +ve in these two hands over a sample of 23000 hands. So its definitely not the cards, its not the variance, its my sucky play when it comes to these two hands because i am sure most of you guys show a +ve in these two hands.
so far, in 1-2 over 23 hands I have been dealt total (AQ 0 + s) I am down 38 bb.
VERY SMALL SAMPLE, but I am sure my faulty play is to blame. example hands 3. I cant call with Ace high right, but where do i lay it down, the flop or the turn ?? once I am in the river, i usually call unless it would be an overcall in which case i dont.
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Hand 1:
wanted to wait till the turn to raise him but he caught up on the river. I know he will call my raise but wanted to make him pay more. since its heads up wasnt worried about any other card on a draw free board
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is CO with A , Q .
UTG calls, 5 folds, Hero raises, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls.
Flop: (7.50 SB) T , 2 , A (3 players)
UTG bets, Hero calls, Button calls.
Turn: (5.25 BB) 9 (3 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, Button folds, UTG calls.
River: (9.25 BB) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 15.25 BB
Results in white below:
UTG has Ac 4c (two pair, aces and fours).
Hero has As Qs (one pair, aces).
Outcome: UTG wins 15.25 BB.
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Hand 2:
wanted to wait till the turn again to raise. but didnt happen so had to bet. On the river didnt raise because something didnt feel right. we both were donk-betting each other.
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q , A .
2 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.
Flop: (8 SB) 5 , A , 6 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero calls, Button calls, SB folds.
Turn: (5.50 BB) 4 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB calls.
River: (8.50 BB) T (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, Button calls.
Final Pot: 11.50 BB
Results in white below:
BB has 5h 5s (three of a kind, fives).
Hero has Qh Ac (one pair, aces).
Button has As Jh (one pair, aces).
Outcome: BB wins 11.50 BB.
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Hand 3:
No freakin idea why i called down. I WAS THE FISH here and the sherriff to see if he had something. bad bad play. most of the time i am beat right even if he doesnt have trips ?? fold on the turn ??
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q , A .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls.
Flop: (5.50 SB) T , T , 8 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls.
Turn: (4.75 BB) 7 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.
River: (6.75 BB) 4 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 8.75 BB
Results in white below:
UTG+1 has 8h 7d (two pair, tens and eights).
Hero has Qd Ad (one pair, tens).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 8.75 BB.
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Hand 4:
I pumped it on the flop as I had OESD and the ace. oh well..check raising the turn here bad ?? just check call down ??
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is BB with A , Q .
3 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero raises, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.
Flop: (10 SB) T , 9 , J (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, MP2 calls, Button calls, SB calls.
Turn: (11 BB) A (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets, Button folds, SB calls, Hero raises, MP2 calls, SB calls.
River: (17 BB) 5 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, SB folds.
Final Pot: 19 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has Ah Qh (one pair, aces).
MP2 has 9d Td (two pair, tens and nines).
Outcome: MP2 wins 19 BB.
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hand 5:
didnt want someone to represent the trips and push me off a hand. i shouldnt fold every single time someone bets the trips right ??
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A , Q . MP1 posts a blind of $1. MP2 posts a blind of $1.50. CO posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP1 (poster) 3-bets, MP2 (poster) calls, 1 fold, CO (poster) calls, 3 folds, Hero calls.
Flop: (14 SB) T , T , 2 (4 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (9 BB) A (4 players)
Hero bets, MP1 folds, MP2 raises, CO folds, Hero calls.
River: (13 BB) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 15 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has As Qd (two pair, aces and tens).
MP2 has Jd Tc (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: MP2 wins 15 BB.
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Hand 6:
he may have the flush, he may not..correct to call down HU.
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is Button with Q , A .
3 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.
Flop: (16.50 SB) 9 , 2 , A (5 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.
Turn: (12.25 BB) 4 (4 players)
MP1 bets, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls.
River: (14.25 BB) 7 (2 players)
MP1 bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 16.25 BB
Results in white below:
MP1 has Js 6s (flush, ace high).
Hero has Qs Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: MP1 wins 16.25 BB.
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Hand 7:
I thought villain was on OESD or maybe a flush draw. River nulled his 2 pair maybe assuming he didnt have the 9. bad call ??
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A , Q .
2 folds, Hero raises, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, 3 folds, BB calls.
Flop: (8.50 SB) J , Q , 9 (4 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls.
Turn: (8.75 BB) 6 (3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, MP2 folds.
River: (10.75 BB) 9 (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 12.75 BB
Results in white below:
BB has Td Ks (straight, king high).
Hero has Ah Qc (two pair, queens and nines).
Outcome: BB wins 12.75 BB.
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4-of-a-Kind
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hand 1: raise the flop. bet/call down the turn. bet/call the river if checked to (maybe fold against passive)
hand 2: same as hand 1. raise the flop.
hand 3: fold the turn.
hand 4: bet out the turn.
hand 5: yep
hand 6: i cold call. AQo is not strong enough to 3bet into that big a field...unless it is a very tight table and you are sure your 3bet will drive out a lot of the earlier players. given your preflop 3bet, i play it the same.
hand 7: yep
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Demiparadigm
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Feb 2005
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1- I don't hate waiting for the turn to raise. I raise this flop about 100% of the time.
2- Here you HAVE to raise the flop. There are a few draws, and multiple opponents.
3- I play this the same at 5/10. At 1/2 I call the flop and fold the turn.
4- I don't mind the flop 3 bet. You have a backddor nut flush draw also. Lead the turn. You are trying too hard to be tricky, which is a big leak of alot of 1/2 players. DON'T EVEN OFFER FREE CARDS AT THIS LEVEL!!!!
5- I usually fold this flop out of position with a hand that may be dead. a call here is required though, since you are getting 17 to 1. after the turn you played it well.
6- good.
7- Which 2 pair did the river null? You have a poor concept of counterfeit outs. There is no hand that you beat on the river that you didn't beat on the flop. That being said, you still played it right.
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mdwav
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ont, Canada
Posts: 59
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Hand 1: I think waiting til the turn is acceptable; though for me it depends on the button. If he/she always peels off a turn I raise the flop. If not I alternate between raising the flop and turn (maybe around a 70/30 split). The way you played it I just call the river donk bet.
Hand 2: I raise the flop. Hyper and Demi, if there were more players in, or there was a flush draw as well, do you wait to pop a free turn card?
Hand 3: Fold the turn; villain has at least an 8, if not trips or even a straight. I have mixed feelings on the flop raise.
Hand 4: I leadthe turn and play it from there.
Hand 5: I fold the turn. Why does everyone like calling down here? Isn't Mp2's line the classic slowplay trips line?
Hand 6: I play the same. You kinda get screwed over here cuz on the turn you do have a re-draw, and the pot is too big to fold on the river.
Hand 7: I usually lose an extra SB by capping the flop. Is this a leak?
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