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Fnord
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01-30-2005, 12:53 PM
Post subject: Analysis of a call
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Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Fnord is UTG+1 with A , J .
1 fold, Fnord raises, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB calls, BB 3-bets, Fnord calls, MP2 calls, SB calls.
Flop: (12 SB) 3 , 6 , 9 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Fnord calls, MP2 calls, SB folds.
Turn: (7.50 BB) J (3 players)
BB bets, Fnord raises, MP2 calls, BB folds.
River: (12.50 BB) 8 (2 players)
Fnord bets, MP2 calls.
Final Pot: 14.50 BB
Results in white below:
Fnord has Ad Jc (one pair, jacks).
MP2 has Ks Qd (high card, king).
Outcome: Fnord wins 14.50 BB.
Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing 3s 6c Jd 9h
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Jc Ad 34 77.27 10 22.73 0 0.00 0.773
Ks Qd 10 22.73 34 77.27 0 0.00 0.227
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Wow, don't understand the call on the river there.
Nor why he attacked the turn.
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Yeldud
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I agree with Dwarfmann - just does not make sense.
Maybe (s)he was paying for information?
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If you put all your faith in the river, you are up shit's creek
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koolmoe
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by dwarfman1990
Wow, don't understand the call on the river there.
Nor why he attacked the turn.
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River call = big pot (13.5 bets). If your opponent will semi-bluff raise the turn and bluff the river more than 7% of the time, it's a profitable one. I've made similar calls and won occasionally. Very opponent dependent.
Note that he cold-called the turn rather than led the turn (turn bettor folded to the raise).
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by koolmoe
.Note that he cold-called the turn rather than led the turn (turn bettor folded to the raise).
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Oh yeah, read the history wrong and mistaked him for the BB.
My bad.
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elipsesjeff
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Flop call was marginal; but your read on him having two overs was really good. Although his two overs probably beat your two overs, I usually like to see the turn card here for cheap anyway. Would a free-card play work out here you think?
And I would have to say, that would be one of the dumbest river calls i've seen, not to mention a marginal flop call by him as well. He's obviously dominated and the turn did give him more outs to see the river. The river call, was, well, somewhat calling-stationish. He wanted to see what fnord had and I imagine he payed for his information.
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