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JJDylan
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07-26-2005, 06:07 PM
Post subject: Am i just costing myself bets here?
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Straight
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 211
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I wanted to keep the 3rd guy in the pot by just calling, but should i be jamming the pot on every street here since they both showed strength preflop? (i think i already know the answer to this)
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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J , J .
UTG raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG caps, Hero calls, SB calls.
Flop: (13 SB) J , 2, 8 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, SB calls.
Turn: (8 BB) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, SB folds.
River: (10 BB) 5 (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG calls.
Final Pot: 14 BB
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Jay67s
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Straight
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: West Virginia
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With that flop (safe, no draws) I will play it 2 ways,
1) call the flop like you did, to keep both players in and to set a trap --- but on the turn its a raise always
2) raise the flop and turn --- fish will call (if the flop has draws, will always raise with a set)
I think slow playing until the river is definately wasted bets
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pokerfanatic
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: 6max limit tables
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Originally Posted by Jay67s
With that flop (safe, no draws) I will play it 2 ways,
1) call the flop like you did, to keep both players in and to set a trap --- but on the turn its a raise always
2) raise the flop and turn --- fish will call (if the flop has draws, will always raise with a set)
I think slow playing until the river is definately wasted bets
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i don't mind the slow play on the flop but you miss bets by not raising the turn...
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outphase
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2005
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SB was getting out of the way anyway. Raising the turn might lead to a UTG 3bet which is ideal in your case. Top set vs no reasonable draw has you way ahead. Slowplaying until the river is missing bets along the way
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Originally Posted by lambchopdc
Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
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TylerK
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I might just start jamming it on the flop and hope his preflop cap means something. You people coming along more often even for 2 on the flop when the bets are smaller and there are still two cards to come, and nobody will put you on a monster like they might if you smooth call the flop and raise the turn.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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Fnord
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I wept when you called the flop.
I cried when you called the turn.
I want to see how many bets AA/KK/QQ/AK or whatever wants to spew on early streets because they will just call without a set on the river.
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mike4066
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I don't bother slow playing in limit. Its too hard to make up for missed bets on later streets.
Raise as often as you can they won't believe you anyways.
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Trikflow77
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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If he has AA/KK/QQ then with this flop I love the stop n go. Raise the flop and call when he 3 bets. Raise the turn. If they have a big hand they WILL 3bet and lead turn.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by trikflow77
If he has AA/KK/QQ then with this flop I love the stop n go. Raise the flop and call when he 3 bets. Raise the turn. If they have a big hand they WILL 3bet and lead turn.
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I used to run this line a lot. Now I cap it and hope he *still* leads.
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Trikflow77
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I used to run this line a lot. Now I cap it and hope he *still* leads.
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I think this line works well in an aggressive game, so i guess it would depend on the game. A hype aggressive game Im capping all day long because he will still lead into ya.
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