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Aledan
Old 12-10-2005, 05:44 PM     Post subject: AKs overcards bet, correct move? #1 (permalink)  

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This forum is great, I've been reading for a while but this is my first post.

Did I play the following hand correctly?i'm new to 6 max and I'm not sure I'm getting the aggression right, either too much or too little. Its my bet on the turn that most concerns me, although I won the hand is it -EV in the long run to bet out here. The villian was new to the table so had no reads but seemed quite tight in the previous orbit. I had put him on a mid pocket pair and thought my overcards were good aswell as the flush draw, obviously I was wrong.

Seat 1: ichykent (£38.50 in chips)
Seat 2: raap (£63 in chips)
Seat 3: repster (£30.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Nell55 (£7.25 in chips)
Seat 5: acehigh40 (£50 in chips)
Seat 6: Aledan (£101.50 in chips)
acehigh40: posts small blind £0.50
Aledan: posts big blind £1
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Aledan [Ks As]
ichykent: calls £1
raap: raises £2
Nell55: folds
acehigh40: folds
Aledan: raises £2
ichykent: folds
raap: calls £1
----- FLOP ----- [2d Jh 6s]
Aledan: bets £1
raap: raises £2
Aledan: calls £1
----- TURN ----- [2d Jh 6s][9s]
Aledan: bets £2
raap: raises £4
Aledan: calls £2
----- RIVER ----- [2d Jh 6s 9s][8s]
Aledan: bets £2
raap: raises £4
Aledan: raises £4
raap: calls £2
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Aledan: shows [Ks As] (A Flush, Ace high)
raap: shows [9d 9c] (Three of a kind, Nines, Jack high)
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Old 12-10-2005, 08:02 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I don't like the turn bet at all.
In 6 max his raise typically means he has a pair 6 or higher (nut not QQ-AA since no cap.)
Since you are HU, you don't have odds to bet with your ~13 outs since you are less than 30% to win and you have 0 fold equity against a pair.

The flop bet is standard, but in 6 max I am starting to question whether it is +EV out of position, since your opponents main leak is taking hands too far.
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Old 12-10-2005, 08:19 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I don't like the turn bet at all.
In 6 max his raise typically means he has a pair 6 or higher (nut not QQ-AA since no cap.)
Since you are HU, you don't have odds to bet with your ~13 outs since you are less than 30% to win and you have 0 fold equity against a pair.

The flop bet is standard, but in 6 max I am starting to question whether it is +EV out of position, since your opponents main leak is taking hands too far.
Instead of Betting the turn I would like a check/raise because your folding equity is higher.

I don't have any problems c-betting AK here against an opponent who is likely to hold any two cards and will not hide their hand.


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Old 12-11-2005, 12:22 AM #4 (permalink)  
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The flop bet is standard, but in 6 max I am starting to question whether it is +EV out of position, since your opponents main leak is taking hands too far.
I'm starting not to like c-betting into 2+ ops either in 6max. Maybe this is because I'm playing smaller limits, but I've found that if they catch any part of the flop, they're coming no matter what.
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Instead of Betting the turn I would like a check/raise because your folding equity is higher.

I don't have any problems c-betting AK here against an opponent who is likely to hold any two cards and will not hide their hand.
Say you check raise the turn, and get 3-betted. Then what? I think that check-calling is the way to go.
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Old 12-11-2005, 11:17 AM #6 (permalink)  

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Thanks for the replys.

After reading Hypers 6max sticky I was thinking that I should never check-call and didn't fancy the check-raise incase it was reraised back at me. Perhaps this is one instance where calling would be the best play.
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Thanks for the replys.

After reading Hypers 6max sticky I was thinking that I should never check-call and didn't fancy the check-raise incase it was reraised back at me. Perhaps this is one instance where calling would be the best play.
Calling is more something that you don't do preflop.
It is often correct to call post flop.

(It is also okay to limp a speculative hand preflop after other limpers, like small pairs and soooted connectorz.)
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Say you check raise the turn, and get 3-betted. Then what?
Suck out.


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