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Old 02-18-2005, 09:20 AM     Post subject: AK's from last night: #1 (permalink)  
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It seems like yesterday AK's were not my thing
I did not pair them once, and I think I break even with them or close to it:
I might have misplayed hand number 2, although I'm sure a bet on the turn would not turn the flush draw away!

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Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, A. MP1 posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, MP1 (poster) raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 6, 3, 2 (4 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, MP1 raises, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 4 (4 players)
SB checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (11 BB) 9 (4 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 11 BB

Results in white below:
SB has 4c Ad (one pair, fours).
MP1 has Jh Jd (one pair, jacks).
Hero has Kd As (high card, ace).
MP3 doesn't show.
Outcome: MP1 wins 11 BB.

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Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, K.
Hero raises, 3 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 8, 2, 3 (4 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 3 (4 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, Button checks.

River: (6.75 BB) K (4 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, Button bets, Hero calls, MP3 folds, CO calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Ah Kd (two pair, kings and threes).
CO has Kh 5s (two pair, kings and threes).
Button has Jc Tc (flush, king high).
Outcome: Button wins 9.75 BB.


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Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, A.
Hero raises, 3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 9, 7, 4 (4 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, Button folds, BB 3-bets, Hero folds, CO calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) J (2 players)
BB bets, CO calls.

River: (10.25 BB) 7 (2 players)
BB bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

Results in white below:
CO has 8c 9c (two pair, nines and sevens).
BB has Tc Th (two pair, tens and sevens).
Outcome: BB wins 12.25 BB.

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Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A, K.
2 folds, Hero raises, 5 folds, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) 7, J, 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) T (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (5.50 BB) Q (2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Results in white below:
SB has 6d Tc (two pair, tens and sixes).
Hero has Ac Ks (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.50 BB.
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Old 02-18-2005, 09:35 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Fold at the turn. I assume to be drawing for a split pot.
Hand 2: Looks good. I might raise the river to see what happens but I can't fault check/calling
Hand 3: TERRIBLE FOLD AT FLOP. You're not just trying to catch a free card. AK still has value there. And for 1 more dollar when there's roughly 7$ in the pot already.
Hand 4: Nice River, I probably would have folded the turn since he didn't give my free card.. Plus it's a small pot.

I am not an expert on LLH, wait for one of the multiple LLH guru's to respond. But those are my initial reactions.
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Old 02-18-2005, 04:09 PM #3 (permalink)  
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i agree with everything you said.
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Old 02-18-2005, 04:50 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Stop playing the Party 1/2 game.

Hand 1: Standard
Hand 2: Bet the turn, good board for no pair. Bet the river too.
Hand 3: Horrible flop fold. I often just call that flop bet.
Hand 4: Yeah, I usually fold that turn too. Reads help, did he likely catch or is he taking a stab at it?
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Old 02-18-2005, 04:51 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by HeavyP
Hand 1: Fold at the turn. I assume to be drawing for a split pot.
Even with your overs? Count your outs and count the pot. How do you figure this is a fold?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
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Old 02-18-2005, 08:56 PM #6 (permalink)  
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14$ in the pot. I don't count my ace or a 5 as a solid out. The only card I'm really hoping to hit is a K. You're hoping to put in 2$ into a 14$ pot to hit 3 outs is how I looked at it.
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Old 02-18-2005, 09:22 PM #7 (permalink)  
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14$ in the pot. I don't count my ace or a 5 as a solid out. The only card I'm really hoping to hit is a K. You're hoping to put in 2$ into a 14$ pot to hit 3 outs is how I looked at it.
I've heard of discounting outs, but that's silly. I discount down to ~6 outs.
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Old 02-18-2005, 10:05 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I think if it were HU I would agree with you Fnord...
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Old 02-19-2005, 01:29 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fnord
Stop playing the Party 1/2 game.
Am I THAT bad?

hand 2: I thought exactly that: If i had raised the turn maybe that guy would not chase his flush, but you know as well as I do that he would

hand 3: well...I've been having some bad beats chassing hands that did not flop, so I figured that guy had something... Maybe it's a temporary thing and I'll play it correctly later, but for now I chicken a lot

hand 4: I figured I had 10 outs, so it was correct to call. How is that wrong?

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Old 02-19-2005, 02:26 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by rmariani
Am I THAT bad?
No the rake is that bad and the 2/4 game is soft.
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Old 02-19-2005, 02:28 AM #11 (permalink)  
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hand 2: I thought exactly that: If i had raised the turn maybe that guy would not chase his flush, but you know as well as I do that he would
Folding a flush draw on the turn with that pot + board would be a horrible mistake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
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