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Tripps7

03-23-2005, 04:44 PM Post subject: AKo and AQo in LP when the flop misses

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Since we discussed these hands in EP. What about LP when you miss? I am talking CO or button here.

Since this is depends on game texture, pot size, board and player type (as with all situations in poker) how would you play these situations:

1. When to call a single bet.

2. When to raise a single bet

3. when it is checked around to you.

Here's my thoughts:

1. I only call against loose players. I hate calling. I will usually raise or fold. If the bet comes from EP and there are only 1-2 callers I fold unless the pot is huge. More than 4 or 5 I will probably call.

2. If the bet is from my immediate right I will raise to isolate and for the free card. HU I probably raise for the free card.

3. If I fear a possible check raise I take my free card. If not I bet out to follow up on my preflop aggression. If check raised I will call and fold on the turn UI.

I probably need to reread the over card section in SSH.

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Rondavu

03-23-2005, 05:22 PM

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Normally, if I have AK or AQ, I will do whatever it takes to see the entire community unless it's obvious I'm drawing dead.

If it's checked around to me I open up the betting. My logic is that if it's checked around, I'm probably just as ahead as I was preflop anyway. If I get check raised I make one crying call and fold to any bet on an unimproved turn. Just as you stated I believe.

As for calling as opposed to raising a bet at you post-flop, my goal is to see all the cards I can as cheap as I can unimproved just like a drawing hand, except in this case I'm hoping the board stays uncoordinated. I don't know how many times I've caught a lone ace on the river with AK in hand to take a pot down.

Any 2-bet to me on a bad flop and I'm outa there obviously. It's not worth it. Your almost drawing dead. It's very situational however, as per the following...

In some rare instances you can put the 2-bettor on a draw and cold call a 2-bet through the turn, because often if their draw isn't panning out they settle down.

In these cases what will happen is you'll get raise, reraise to you on the flop, and then when the turn comes you get check, check to you because the initial rasier is afraid of the drawing reraiser who is now unimproved and also checks to you. In that case you get a free river for seeing the 2-bet through on the flop, and potentially take it down for staying the course in the right circumstance.

How you play big hands unimproved post-flop has everything to do with what your putting your post flop company on. See every card you can whichever way is cheapest only in circumstances where your not already way behind. That's the basic principle I use. I don't claim to be an expert but it's just the way I play.

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03-23-2005, 06:18 PM

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I bet/raise for a freecard almost always. One exception is when a usually fast-acting player in EP thinks about his action for a second or two too long. Things like this send up flags to look out for the check raise. Also, I will call a single bet with AQ on a flop that is K high.

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