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Adjustments moving up to 3/6, 5/10 Revisited
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Ltrain
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11-18-2005, 06:23 PM
Post subject: Adjustments moving up to 3/6, 5/10 Revisited
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Miami, Florida
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I am currently transitioning into 3/6, and was looking through the archives for general advice on making adjustments to the 3/6; 5/10 game from 2/4 when I came across this great summary by Trikflow:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=10092
I wanted to bring it up again to see if anyone currently in or who has worked through these limits had any specific suggestions or comments they could add? Has the game changed on any of these areas?
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euphoricism
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
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I just moved from 2/4 full to 3/6 6max and am just now getting into 5/10 6max. I will weigh in on his post..
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1. I use the players stats a LOT more than at lower limits. When I sit at a table I pick out who the very aggressive players are, who the passive ones are, and who is just plain bad. Based on this I now play the player more than I play my cards. At 2/4, it was auto bet, check, or raise.
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Disagree. I used to live by pokerEdge. It was a huge crutch, and once I stopped using at at 3/6 6max my profits SOARED. Turn that shit off and develop your own reads.
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2. Against the very aggressive players I let them bet for me instead of raising them. For example if I defend my blind with a weak ace against a very aggressive button I will just call down with top pair.
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No. Raise TP against a steal.
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3. When in the blinds knowing when to bet top pair weak kicker is key. If you hold 106os and the flop comes down 2 4 10 and the pot has not been raised, i find most players limp 10x enough to check fold this.
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Disagree. Bet out.
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i am more confident to bet my hand in an unraised pot.
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Agreed.
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4. Players call down more. A lot more. I find that I can value bet quite a few hands becasue a decent player wont let got of aq on a ragged board.
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Very, very true. People don't let go of overcards, and YOU WILL BE TEMPTED TO HOLD ON TO OVERCARDS. This is a big problem for me, personally.
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5. Reading flop texture is much more important. Knowing when to bet kq after whiffing the flop really depends on the texture of the board.
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Well, duh.
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6. Why are people so aggressive with flush draws? I get in heads up pots where they 3 bet me with a flush draw, lead the turn and bet the river after missing. HU this is a losing play if you know your opponent wont fold, but i see it all the time.
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Aggression is everything in these games, particularly the 5/10 game. If I'm closing the action, he bets, I'm raising my flush draw. If he three-bets, I think hard about it, but probably cap. Particularly if I have decent overcards as well. A) I'm closing the action, B) It hides my hand. C) I can take the free card. All for the low low price of 1sb.
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7. I use my position to my advantage a lot more in 5/10. This includes 3 betting with ok hands, stealing and opening with modest hands and so forth. Because very aggressive players will open with weak hands (out of position a lot of time too) isolating them and showing aggression back works wonders. Once they are 3 bet, they check fold the flop enough to make this work.
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True enough.
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8. Blind play is tough. This is the area of my game that I am starting to work on hard and it needs the most attention. Being a good blind player is very important and in my eyes is one of the tougher aspects of limit holdem.
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Very true. Blind play can be difficult. Reads are very important here -- you MUST know if someone is stealing, and you MUST know if they can fold if you show aggression back. You must also know when to get the hell off the table.
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9. Semi bluffing becomes a very important concept which I could not really use in lower limit games. If the player never folds, the semi bluff weapon is blunted.
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Very true.
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10. I Induce bluffs with strong hands that could be beat badly. Example KK on a 10 5 3. The bettor is in the blinds and c/r you. The board pairs on the turn and he checks. Checking behind him will make him bet the river with nothing
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I do this, i wouldnt say often -- but sometimes.
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Ltrain
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Thanks for the initial comments, I hope there will be more guidance to come.
One question I had already that maybe you could answer was on continuation bets. I am seeing that I don't get the same amount of flop folds for continuation bets as 2/4 and was thinking of mixing it up with a check on the flop (if uncoordinated), bet/raise the Turn, fold to 3 bet or river donk. Would this be effective against a typical player hitting nothing or, say low or mid pair, or is it a better line to stick to the standard raise flop, free card UI or bet blank turn, fold to river bet? Would this work against more agressive defenders OOP?
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"Don't judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. Then you are a mile away, and have his shoes." - Anon.
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Trikflow77
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by Ltrain
Thanks for the initial comments, I hope there will be more guidance to come.
One question I had already that maybe you could answer was on continuation bets. I am seeing that I don't get the same amount of flop folds for continuation bets as 2/4 and was thinking of mixing it up with a check on the flop (if uncoordinated), bet/raise the Turn, fold to 3 bet or river donk. Would this be effective against a typical player hitting nothing or, say low or mid pair, or is it a better line to stick to the standard raise flop, free card UI or bet blank turn, fold to river bet? Would this work against more agressive defenders OOP?
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These were some general adjustments i made when i moved up.......i think now i could revamp some of them....but for the most part they are true. All in all, 5/10 on up you need to be a good blind player, be comfortable calling down more, and play position better.
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