Originally Posted by rmariani

hand 2: I agree. The river was even more stupid because I paused to think!!! My brain stoped i guess! lol

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WTF!!!!!!!!!!!
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with T, T.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 9, 2, 6 (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 5 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (9.75 BB) A (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

Results in white below:
UTG+1 has Ac 6s (two pair, aces and sixes).
Hero has Tc Td (one pair, tens).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 11.75 BB.

Originally Posted by lonnie

Hand 1 looks great. Check/calling the river was perfect.

Hand 2 - I think you misplayed every street.

Muck K9 preflop. Play it suited from LP if there are a bunch of limpers ahead of you. If there aren't a lot of limpers, muck it from any position, except for SB and BB.

Flop - bet out and see how much your opp likes his hand. Maybe he's playing AQ, AJ, etc. If he doesnt raise you, you gotta think you're good. If he raises you, you need to think seriously about your kicker and how to proceed.

Turn - bet out. I don't think you had any reason to think your opp would bet after checking the flop. If your hand ends up being good, you missed a bet here.

River - I would just call the river raise. Your turn check/raise said "Hello I have a King". Their river 3-bet said "I don't give a shit about your dry King, bring it on!".

This was either a very tricky player or a very passive one.

Originally Posted by honsheung

As for hand no 1
Is it wise to play check call in river if i have pocket pair , which is second large, like 1010, and when river comes and A , don't bet out?
I have doubts, often i have the second large pari , and when A comes in river, I will bet out. If get a raise back, sometimes call and sometimes, fold, depending on read on the player.
What do you think?

Originally Posted by lonnie

The only thing I don't like about playing the hand like this is that sometimes you are showing down, sometimes you aren't. I like to always show down a hand that I was fairly certain was good on the turn, unless the board gets really fucked up.

Check/calling the river can oftentimes induce a bluff from a lesser hand. Also, alot of times only hands that can beat you will call anyway. Sometimes the hands that can beat you won't bet either. I hate having to figure out if I should lay down the hand to one more bet after getting raised on the river.

Originally Posted by lonnie

Being out of position on the river with less than top pair just scares the bejeezus out of me. I know how many people will play 2nd or top pair with A kicker when I hold an overpair to the board. When the A or K hits the river - I freeze and check/call.

Originally Posted by lonnie

Based on what you said above...if you are against a solid player, shouldn't you raise? Am I missing something here?

Originally Posted by chardrian

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with T, T.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 9, 2, 6 (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 5 (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (9.75 BB) A (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.75 BB

Results in white below:
UTG+1 has Ac 6s (two pair, aces and sixes).
Hero has Tc Td (one pair, tens).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 11.75 BB.

Really? I agree A6 os sucks. But let's forget that for a sec. Flop came out with a paired 6 and a nut flush draw. I don't play ten handed, I play 5 handed but I re-raise this flop bet with that hand, thinking 14 outs (9 for flush, 3 for A, 2 for 6). Turn I call and River I either check (depending on how much that 78 scares me) or bet. Why is 14 outs hitting so unlucky?

Originally Posted by rmariani

and AGAIN!!!!!!!!!
grrrrrrrrrrrrr
:P

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, J.
UTG calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG folds, Hero caps, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) 7, J, 4 (3 players)
Hero bets, MP2 folds, Button calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) T (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

River: (14.25 BB) A (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18.25 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has Jc Jd (three of a kind, jacks).
Button has Ac As (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Button wins 18.25 BB.