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Old 03-15-2009, 07:45 AM     Post subject: AA river vs weird line #1 (permalink)  
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villain is a passive fish 49/12/0.8 over 225h

call or raise for value? should i worry about 99/TT?

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Hero (UTG) ($234.50)
UTG+1 ($136.50)
CO ($81.50)
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BB ($120.00)

Pre-flop: (1.5 SB, 6 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises, 3 folds, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Hero 4-bets, SB calls

Flop: (9.0 SB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls

Turn: (5.5 BB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls

River: (9.5 BB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero ???
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Old 03-15-2009, 09:25 AM #2 (permalink)  

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I just should call. Maybe have the guy a lucky 2 pair or something . You never know. if he raises i should call. if he checks you raise.
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Old 03-15-2009, 10:41 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I don't know, but I see bad players do this with 88, JJ or AK all the time. You're telling them you've got a big hand and they don't believe you. I'm pretty tempted to put in one more raise on the river no matter what his AF is.
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Old 03-15-2009, 11:58 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I don't know, but I see bad players do this with 88, JJ or AK all the time
I agree. But do bad players with an AF of 0.8 do this?

I just call this one.
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Old 03-15-2009, 12:49 PM #5 (permalink)  
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His 3bet pf suggests a big pair, or AK.

I think he has JJ-KK enough here and is thinking zomfg overpair that we lose value by not raising. Sometimes he'll have TT (I think 99 3bets the turn since it is the nuts on the turn) but more often I think he's got JJ-KK.
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Old 03-15-2009, 02:56 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 I've seen this line a lot with weak overpairs. Although the 99-TT weak overpairs are now sets, I think this is still JJ-KK enough to raise on the end.
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Old 03-15-2009, 05:48 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 hand combination vs. his 3betting range this is an auto-raise

also, does everyone always cap PF here? what about OOP?
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Old 03-15-2009, 06:05 PM #8 (permalink)  
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hand combination vs. his 3betting range this is an auto-raise

also, does everyone always cap PF here? what about OOP?
OOP i may sometimes mix in just calling a 3bet. But only against aggressive villains, that i can c/r 100%, and if it will be HU.
Against passives, I will always cap no matter what. Pushing action is much more important against them than trapping.
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