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Old 02-06-2008, 05:41 AM     Post subject: 7S8 $16 Sng: People are strange #1 (permalink)  
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One of the weirdest hands I played in those Sngs

Tournament - 7 Card Stud High-Low - Level III (40/80), Ante 8, Bring-In 12 (converter)

Hero: 1,280
Seat 2: 1,410
Seat 3: 1,113
Seat 4: 4,041
Seat 5: 1,275
Seat 7: 1,573
Seat 8: 1,308

3rd Street - (1.40 SB)

Hero: 3 2 5___brings-in___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 6 ___calls___calls
Seat 3: xx xx A ___raises
Seat 4: xx xx A ___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 7 ___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 7 ___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 6 ___folds

4th Street - (6.40 SB)

Hero: 3 2 5 8 ___raises___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 6 8 ___raises___calls
Seat 3: xx xx A T ___raises
Seat 4: xx xx A Q ___bets___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 7 8 ___calls___folds

5th Street - (11.70 BB)

Hero: 3 2 5 8 3 ___raises___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 6 8 9 ___calls___calls
Seat 3: xx xx A T 4 ___raises
Seat 4: xx xx A Q Q ___bets___calls

6th Street - (23.70 BB)

Hero: 3 2 5 8 3 5___checks___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 6 8 9 5 ___bets___calls
Seat 3: xx xx A T 4 6 ___raises
Seat 4: xx xx A Q Q 9 ___checks___calls

River - (31.70 BB)

Hero: 3 2 5 8 3 5 4___calls
Seat 2: xx xx 6 8 9 5 xx___calls
Seat 3: xx xx A T 4 6 xx___calls
Seat 4: xx xx A Q Q 9 xx___bets

Total pot: (35.70 BB)
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Old 02-15-2008, 06:02 PM #2 (permalink)  

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First off, let me apologize for being absent lately. As previously mentioned, I'm a member of a large number of poker sites and my small brain has trouble remembering to drop in on them all frequently enough. Currently I'm in Vermont for my girlfriend's cousin's wedding, so I also have a little more limited access to the internet.

Anyways, on to the hand in question. It is a little weird and somewhat difficult to decipher what everyone's got here. My initial guess was that seat two developed a straight draw and low draw on 4th. It's the only way I can think of to justify reraising with his inferior low. But with his cards on 5th and 6th streets he would certainly have had to completed the straight, but he simply calls the rest of the way, rather than raising, aside from his bet and call on 6th, so I'm inclined to think that he doesn't have a straight, and I honestly don't know what to make of his hand.

You've got a board-lock on the low by the time 7th comes. You made two pair, which don't look to be good here, and you were chasing a little on 6th, but the only person who is a possible threat to you for the low is seat 3, with the A-4-6 showing. Granted seat 2 could already have a low, but it's a pretty weak one and you've got a number of outs to draw much better unless he's perfect in the whole and catches perfect on 7th too, which is unlikely at best.

I would assume that seat 3 raised on 3rd with a pair of aces, but with no information as to what type of player he is I couldn't say for sure. If he's got something like 2-3, 2-5 or 3-5 in the hole, you're in serious trouble both ways.

Seat 4 looks like a pair of aces as well, but again it's difficult to say.


I'm certainly very curious to see how it all panned out and what the results were.
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Old 02-16-2008, 07:08 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I dont have the HH with me, its on another comptur so I would look it up later so I am guessing as well

seat two can have multiple things - SD+low draw is the most logical, he could have also hit trips on 4th

I doubt seat 3 has a made low on 6th, because then there is no reason in hell he should cap 4th

I will look up the HH and post the results


 
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Old 02-17-2008, 01:49 AM #4 (permalink)  

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I agree that seat 3 probably hasn't already made a low, unless he's a super agressive player capping with A-2-3, which isn't the best move. If that were the case then your low is in trouble, but more likely he has a pair of aces. However, if he does have aces and a decent low card, he could have developed a good low draw on 6th, which would be my only real concern in the hand.

I was really inclined to think that seat 2 had a straight draw and low draw, but if he had any sort of straight draw he would almost certainly have completed it by 6th, considering the cards he got. The only other solution to that was that he made 2 pair. I'm starting to think it's more likely that he made trips on 4th, and then got worried about seat 4 tripping up on 5th, and thus stopped raising. That is starting to look a little more likely I think.
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*** SHOW DOWN ***
pokerface56: shows [Js Kh Ah Qs Qd 9s Th] (HI: a straight, Ten to Ace)
Forty2u: shows [3d 2c 5d 8s 3s 5s 4c] (HI: two pair, Fives and Threes; LO: 8,5,4,3,2)
dinho_style: mucks hand
Quahoag: mucks hand
pokerface56 collected 1428 from pot
Forty2u collected 1428 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2856 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Forty2u showed [3d 2c 5d 8s 3s 5s 4c] and won (1428) with HI: two pair, Fives and Threes; LO: 8,5,4,3,2
Seat 2: dinho_style mucked [7h 3c 6s 8d 9d 5h 6c]
Seat 3: Quahoag mucked [Ad Tc As Td 4d 6d Qc]
Seat 4: pokerface56 showed [Js Kh Ah Qs Qd 9s Th] and won (1428) with HI: a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 5: samig66 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: tina1machina folded on the 4th Street
Seat 8: CR00K folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)


 
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edit: misread the hand.
 
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:54 PM #7 (permalink)  

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Quote:
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*** SHOW DOWN ***
pokerface56: shows [Js Kh Ah Qs Qd 9s Th] (HI: a straight, Ten to Ace)
Forty2u: shows [3d 2c 5d 8s 3s 5s 4c] (HI: two pair, Fives and Threes; LO: 8,5,4,3,2)
dinho_style: mucks hand
Quahoag: mucks hand
pokerface56 collected 1428 from pot
Forty2u collected 1428 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2856 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Forty2u showed [3d 2c 5d 8s 3s 5s 4c] and won (1428) with HI: two pair, Fives and Threes; LO: 8,5,4,3,2
Seat 2: dinho_style mucked [7h 3c 6s 8d 9d 5h 6c]
Seat 3: Quahoag mucked [Ad Tc As Td 4d 6d Qc]
Seat 4: pokerface56 showed [Js Kh Ah Qs Qd 9s Th] and won (1428) with HI: a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 5: samig66 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: tina1machina folded on the 4th Street
Seat 8: CR00K folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)

Apparently we were right the first time with the read on seat 2. I'm surprised that he played the straight so passively on 6th, when he hit it. He didn't do any raising with it at all.
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