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guitarhero14
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01-31-2005, 05:10 AM
Post subject: 77 and a gut feeling
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Flush
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Gut feeling told me Radiocrap didnt have crap. Comments?
POKERSTARS GAME #1149867238: HOLD'EM LIMIT ($0.02/$0.04) - 2005/01/31 - 00:24:20 (ET)
Table 'Leo' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: kdeal108 ($1.07 in chips)
Seat 2: greenmoose4 ($0.48 in chips)
Seat 3: Serene ($1.33 in chips)
Seat 5: guitarhero14 ($0.92 in chips)
Seat 6: viccocat ($0.30 in chips)
Seat 7: McMike47 ($1.94 in chips)
Seat 8: Radiocrap ($1.35 in chips)
Seat 9: John_66 ($1.22 in chips)
Seat 10: aldjr ($2.35 in chips)
Serene: posts small blind $0.01
guitarhero14: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to guitarhero14 [ ]
viccocat: calls $0.02
McMike47: calls $0.02
Radiocrap: calls $0.02
John_66: raises $0.02 to $0.04
aldjr: folds
kdeal108: folds
greenmoose4: folds
Serene: folds
guitarhero14: calls $0.02
viccocat: calls $0.02
McMike47: calls $0.02
Radiocrap: calls $0.02
*** FLOP *** [ :Th: ]
guitarhero14: checks
viccocat: checks
McMike47: checks
Radiocrap: bets $0.02
John_66: calls $0.02
guitarhero14: calls $0.02
viccocat: folds
McMike47: calls $0.02
*** TURN *** [6c Th 6s] [ ]
guitarhero14: checks
McMike47: checks
Radiocrap: bets $0.04
John_66: folds
guitarhero14: calls $0.04
McMike47: calls $0.04
*** RIVER *** [6c Th 6s 2c] [ ]
guitarhero14: checks
McMike47: checks
Radiocrap: bets $0.04
guitarhero14: calls $0.04
McMike47: folds
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Radiocrap: shows [8c Ad] (a pair of Sixes)
guitarhero14: shows [7d 7h] (two pair, Sevens and Sixes)
guitarhero14 collected $0.49 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $0.49 | Rake $0
Board [6c Th 6s 2c 3s]
Seat 1: kdeal108 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: greenmoose4 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Serene (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: guitarhero14 (big blind) showed [7d 7h] and won ($0.49) with two pair, Sevens and Sixes
Seat 6: viccocat folded on the Flop
Seat 7: McMike47 folded on the River
Seat 8: Radiocrap showed [8c Ad] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 9: John_66 folded on the Turn
Seat 10: aldjr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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montimus
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Straight
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Ummm...you're gut feeling was right?
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gabe
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i had something similiar tonight...
mp3 is super-lag
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is SB with 5 , 5 .
5 folds, MP3 raises, 1 fold, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.
Flop: (8 SB) 9 , 6 , 2 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP3 bets, Button calls, Hero raises, BB folds, MP3 calls, Button calls.
Turn: (7 BB) 6 (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 folds, Button folds.
Final Pot: 8 BB
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TylerK
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4-of-a-Kind
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Expand upon "gut feeling".
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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guitarhero14
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Flush
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well it was check to him, i just figured he was trying to steal it. I just "felt" that he didnt have either the 10 or 6, and once to lower cards than my pp fell on the turn and river. I just thought i had him. I cant really explain it better, it was a gut feeling thats all.
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TylerK
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Originally Posted by guitarhero14
well it was check to him, i just figured he was trying to steal it. I just "felt" that he didnt have either the 10 or 6, and once to lower cards than my pp fell on the turn and river. I just thought i had him. I cant really explain it better, it was a gut feeling thats all. 
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What I'm getting at here is: your intuition, or "gut feeling" is important, and CAN give you an edge. Brunson talks about this in Super System, and talks about it as a function of having tremendous recall; that is, to have been in this particular situation before, and having your subconscious pick it out and give you a "feeling." I had a similar situation the other night when I was coaching my roommate: I had him call a river all-in with middle pair because I had a "feeling" that the opponent had missed and was trying to buy it, and I was correct.
The reason I mention this: if you are going to use your "gut feelings" as a tool to assist you in your play, it's important to view them rationally and understand what they are and where they're coming from. Too often it is easy to make an INCORRECT bet or call and use "gut feeling" as a way to rationalize it, which is wrong.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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koolmoe
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Checking the flop was fine, but when it came back to you, you really needed to check-raise to protect your hand if you want to continue. When the two falls on the turn, bet out and fold to a raise. You are either slightly ahead or way behind here and would prefer to take the pot down without seeing another card.
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guitarhero14
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tylerk: was this an incorrect call then?
koolmoe: thanx for the advice, i just bought ssh so i should learn much more .
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-guitar
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TylerK
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Originally Posted by guitarhero14
tylerk: was this an incorrect call then?
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No, it was correct if you are trusting your gut for the right reasons. Just make sure that you are consciously doing so.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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This seems like one of those fold situations.
You're either way behind or slightly ahead.
Am I off here?
-'rilla
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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radiocrap
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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wowwyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
hi
im the infamous Radiocrap
i feel so popular...
cant believe pple record this stuff...
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ChezJ
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i would have checkraised that guy on the flop. if you really think he has nothing, then that means your second pair is probably good. don't give any of those limpers a cheap look at the turn which could be an ace or king.
ChezJ
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Element187
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Originally Posted by radiocrap
wowwyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
hi
im the infamous Radiocrap
i feel so popular...
cant believe pple record this stuff...
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i feel dumber from reading this post.
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"Imagine how it would be to be at the top Making cash money, Go and tour all around the world, Tell stories about all the young girls." - The Prodigy - Girls
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stuck
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Flush
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yeah. Either check raise the flop and/or bet out the turn.
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If I had a hammer
I'd drop in the morning
I'd drop in the evening..
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radiocrap
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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ok in my defense...it was FL... so i couldnt bet A LOT b4 flop...
2nd... im only a lil kid still learning...
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by radiocrap
ok in my defense...it was FL... so i couldnt bet A LOT b4 flop...
2nd... im only a lil kid  still learning...
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why are you even bluffing into this big pot with ace high anyway?
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Wet_DreaMer
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Straight
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Originally Posted by radiocrap
wowwyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
hi
im the infamous Radiocrap :lol:
i feel so popular...
cant believe pple record this stuff...
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Hey your welcome to stick around man, never know, you might learn something.
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radiocrap
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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well i mean
my friend was just looking up my ID on the net...n he came to this post.... n showed it to me.... i was lmao
i couldnt believe someone would actually record ONE SILLY HAND... and make such a big thing of it....
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