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7 Stud - Lead or c/r when you trip up on 4th?

  
 
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:30 PM     Post subject: 7 Stud - Lead or c/r when you trip up on 4th? #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars Game #12836557994: HORSE (7 Card Stud Limit, $0.50/$1.00) - 2007/10/25 - 11:17:12 (ET)
Table 'Phad' 8-max
Seat 1: woolierzulu ($17.70 in chips)
Seat 2: RidderA ($48.55 in chips)
Seat 3: Qs4ts ($13.70 in chips)
Seat 4: givememyleg ($49.20 in chips)
Seat 5: PULSAR FAB ($18.55 in chips)
Seat 7: Bear of SA ($22.75 in chips)
Seat 8: superholic ($26.30 in chips)
RidderA: posts the ante $0.05
Qs4ts: posts the ante $0.05
givememyleg: posts the ante $0.05
PULSAR FAB: posts the ante $0.05
Bear of SA: posts the ante $0.05
superholic: posts the ante $0.05
woolierzulu: posts the ante $0.05
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to woolierzulu [5h]
Dealt to RidderA [2s]
Dealt to Qs4ts [Kh]
Dealt to givememyleg [Ad 6s 6d]
Dealt to PULSAR FAB [4d]
Dealt to Bear of SA [7s]
Dealt to superholic [Qh]
RidderA: brings in for $0.25
Qs4ts: folds
givememyleg: calls $0.25
PULSAR FAB: calls $0.25
Bear of SA: calls $0.25
superholic: raises $0.25 to $0.50
woolierzulu: folds
RidderA: folds
givememyleg: calls $0.25
PULSAR FAB: calls $0.25
Bear of SA: calls $0.25
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to givememyleg [Ad 6s 6d] [6h]
Dealt to PULSAR FAB [4d] [8d]
Dealt to Bear of SA [7s] [Qc]
Dealt to superholic [Qh] [Ks]
Pair on board - a double bet is allowed
givememyleg: checks
PULSAR FAB: checks
Bear of SA: checks
superholic: checks
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to givememyleg [Ad 6s 6d 6h] [4c]
Dealt to PULSAR FAB [4d 8d] [7h]
Dealt to Bear of SA [7s Qc] [Js]
Dealt to superholic [Qh Ks] [Td]
givememyleg: bets $1
PULSAR FAB: calls $1
Bear of SA: calls $1
superholic: calls $1
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to givememyleg [Ad 6s 6d 6h 4c] [2d]
Dealt to PULSAR FAB [4d 8d 7h] [3c]
Dealt to Bear of SA [7s Qc Js] [4s]
Dealt to superholic [Qh Ks Td] [2h]
givememyleg: bets $1
PULSAR FAB: folds
Bear of SA: raises $1 to $2
superholic: folds
givememyleg: calls $1
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to givememyleg [Ad 6s 6d 6h 4c 2d] [As]
givememyleg: checks
Bear of SA: bets $1
givememyleg: raises $1 to $2

Bear of SA: calls $1

Obv this is a missed c/r on 4th. Since there is a double bet allowed with a pair should I just lead for double?

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Old 10-25-2007, 07:01 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I would bet normal on 4th, simply due to the size of the field


 
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Old 10-26-2007, 12:55 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I think it depends on the situation. Who your opponent is, how strong his board is (Chip Reese actually recommends betting trips when your opponent's board is weak and checking when it's strong, because this is how you would play when you only had a pair, but some of his advice is probably more concerned with how to play against strong players), how many players are in the pot and other factors.

In this situation I would lead out simply because no one is folding, and someone may even raise you. You want to get as many bets in the pot as possible here, regardless of whether or not it telegraphs the strength of your hand (the player with the possible flush draw may even incorrectly chase for multiple bets on 4th if it gets raised and reraised behind him). Check-raising is actually quite bad because the most likely bettor is to your left, meaning you risk needlessly knocking players out.
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Nice post and advice, thanks.

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Also, you need to consider if your strength is hidden. A paired door card is going to scare a lot of one pair hands. I would lead out for the double bet here, particularly since this pot is already pretty big.
 
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