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7-stud h-l: How far to go with pocket kings ?

  
 
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Old 10-10-2007, 06:57 AM     Post subject: 7-stud h-l: How far to go with pocket kings ? #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars Game #12542035598: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($2/$4) - 2007/10/10 - 02:46:18 (ET)
Table 'Alva' 8-max
Seat 1: 798welder ($34.50 in chips)
Seat 2: Skum ($89.25 in chips)
Seat 3: ibuystock ($125.25 in chips)
Seat 5: fasto ($117.25 in chips)
Seat 6: bballref51 ($81.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Forty2u ($53.50 in chips)
Seat 8: JetLag92881 ($53.75 in chips)
798welder: posts the ante $0.25
Skum: posts the ante $0.25
ibuystock: posts the ante $0.25
fasto: posts the ante $0.25
bballref51: posts the ante $0.25
Forty2u: posts the ante $0.25
JetLag92881: posts the ante $0.25
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to 798welder [6c]
Dealt to Skum [8h]
Dealt to ibuystock [Kh]
Dealt to fasto [7s]
Dealt to bballref51 [6h]
Dealt to Forty2u [Kd 2h Kc]
Dealt to JetLag92881 [Qh]
798welder: brings in for $1
Skum: folds
ibuystock: folds
ibuystock is sitting out
fasto: folds
bballref51: raises $1 to $2
Forty2u: raises $2 to $4
JetLag92881: folds
798welder: calls $3
bballref51: calls $2
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to 798welder [6c] [Ts]
Dealt to bballref51 [6h] [9h]
Dealt to Forty2u [Kd 2h Kc] [Ah]
Forty2u: bets $2
ibuystock has returned
798welder: calls $2
bballref51: calls $2
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to 798welder [6c Ts] [Tc]
Dealt to bballref51 [6h 9h] [Jh]
Dealt to Forty2u [Kd 2h Kc Ah] [4s]
798welder: bets $4
bballref51: folds
Forty2u: calls $4
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to 798welder [6c Ts Tc] [Qs]
Dealt to Forty2u [Kd 2h Kc Ah 4s] [9s]
798welder: bets $4
Forty2u: calls $4
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to Forty2u [Kd 2h Kc Ah 4s 9s] [5h]
798welder: checks
Forty2u: checks

Do you call a river bet here if villian bets ?
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Old 10-10-2007, 07:38 AM #2 (permalink)  
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this is stud8 right?

with K2K I am folding, not reraising. Especially with a K for my upcard.

On the river I suppose you got to call just in case he's bluffing.
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this is stud8 right?

with K2K I am folding, not reraising. Especially with a K for my upcard.

On the river I suppose you got to call just in case he's bluffing.
Yep, 7 stud 8 or better

3rd street I reraised hoping to knock out everyone but the original raiser and pick up the pot if he catches bad on 4th, Folding may have been better

4th street was good for me, if they both go low they caught bad, and I got an A, so I bet, I was surprised to see them both call.
5th street villian paired his T and bet, my line of thinking was that he eithe has 3 lows + pair of tens and tried to pick up the pot or he has 2 pair, either another 6 in the hole which he played badly or pocket Q/J, hopefully noy T

6th was a bad card for me, but the pot was big enough to try to hit 2 pair

7th, I think if he bets I would have to call just because of the size of the pot, luckily he checked and had only pocket T


 
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Old 10-13-2007, 11:19 PM #4 (permalink)  
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You shouldn't be surprised that people chase backdoor draws after you've swelled the pot on 3rd street by reraising. If you goal is to knock players out on 4th when they catch bad, then just call and keep the pot small.

I would either fold or just call on 3rd, and the only reason I would call is because the raiser is in a steal position. Your hand has no low potential and is partially dead, which makes it pretty weak.
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You shouldn't be surprised that people chase backdoor draws after you've swelled the pot on 3rd street by reraising. If you goal is to knock players out on 4th when they catch bad, then just call and keep the pot small.
I dont think calling is a good move here, you will end up with pocket K in a multiway pot with 2 people going low, I prefer folding to calling here

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I would either fold or just call on 3rd, and the only reason I would call is because the raiser is in a steal position. Your hand has no low potential and is partially dead, which makes it pretty weak.
Agreed, I was hoping to pick up the pot early, which did not work out well here (eventually I won the pot but that is beside the point)
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