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Old 04-27-2004, 07:02 AM     Post subject: 7 card stud update #1 (permalink)  
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Well I've moved onto the 6 max 1/2 tables. 2+2 says it's an easier game to beat and that looks to be right. With fewer players to draw out and a smaller ante relative to the betting it's much more generous to tight play. Hence, I've gotten down to seeing 4rth ~20%.
The players aren't much better either, still lots of players that play just about any 3 cards until it looks completely hopeless.

On my first run I lost $50 (a couple river beats, big pair that never improved, a couple ~40% draws that never came and a couple hands I shouldn't have played) but the next session I won that back, and the next session after that I finished up over $50. In the last session I had a guy completing every hand on 3rd and auto-betting 4rth. Once I had him figured out I tightened up and used my position to exploit him for at least $25. I got a kick out of him betting into my full house twice (I raised him both times) and then completing into my burried Kings. May such players always find my table then leave with a thinner bankroll and a smile (smile optional.)

Anyway I'll leave you with one of my last .5/1 hands. So far I'm 2 for 2 with this hand...

***** Hand History for Game 55345XXXX *****
0.50/1 SevenStudHiGameTable (Limit)
Table Table 13899 (Real Money)
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: Player1 ( $3.75)
Seat 2: Player2 ( $47)
Seat 3: Player3 ( $24)
Seat 4: Fnord ( $31.75)
Seat 5: Player5 ( $24.50)
Seat 6: Player6 ( $8)
Seat 7: Player7 ( $47)
Seat 8: Player8 ( $15)
Player2 posts ante (0.25)
Player3 posts ante (0.25)
Fnord posts ante (0.25)
Player5 posts ante (0.25)
Player6 posts ante (0.25)
Player7 posts ante (0.25)
Player8 posts ante (0.25)
** Dealing **
Dealt to Player2 [ 5d ]
Dealt to Player3 [ Qd ]
Dealt to Fnord [ Ac, Ah ]
Dealt to Fnord [ Ad ]
Dealt to Player5 [ 4h ]
Dealt to Player6 [ 8c ]
Dealt to Player7 [ 2d ]
Dealt to Player8 [ 3h ]
Player7 bring-ins (0.25)
Player8 calls (0.25)
Player2 calls (0.25)
Player3 calls (0.25)
Fnord calls (0.25)
Player5 folds.
Player6 calls (0.25)
** Dealing Fourth street **
Dealt to Player2 [ Kc ]
Dealt to Player3 [ 8s ]
Dealt to Fnord [ Ks ]
Dealt to Player6 [ 2s ]
Dealt to Player7 [ 5c ]
Dealt to Player8 [ Qc ]
Fnord checks.
Player6 checks.
Player7 checks.
Player8 bets (0.50)
Player2 calls (0.50)
Player3 calls (0.50)
Fnord raises (1) to 1
Player6 folds.
Player7 folds.
Player8 calls (0.50)
Player2 calls (0.50)
Player3 calls (0.50)
** Dealing Fifth street **
Dealt to Player2 [ 6h ]
Dealt to Player3 [ 3s ]
Dealt to Fnord [ Tc ]
Dealt to Player8 [ 4d ]
Fnord bets (1)
Player8 calls (1)
Player2 calls (1)
Player3 calls (1)
** Dealing Sixth street **
Dealt to Player2 [ 3d ]
Dealt to Player3 [ 2c ]
Dealt to Fnord [ 8h ]
Dealt to Player8 [ 4s ]
Player8 checks.
Player2 checks.
Player3 checks.
Fnord bets (1)
Player8 calls (1)
Player2 calls (1)
Player3 folds.
** Dealing River **
Dealt to Fnord [ 3c ]
Player8 checks.
Player2 checks.
Fnord bets (1)
Player8 raises (2) to 2
Player2 calls (2)
Fnord calls (1)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $19.25 | Rake: $1
Player1 balance $3.75, sits out
Player2 balance $41.50, lost $5.50 [ Jc Jh 5d Kc 6h 3d Kh ] [ two pairs, kings and jacks -- Kc,Kh,Jc,Jh,6h ]
Player3 balance $21.50, lost $2.50 (folded) [ XX XX Qd 8s 3s 2c ]
Fnord balance $45.50, bet $5.50, collected $19.25, net +$13.75 [ Ac Ah Ad Ks Tc 8h 3c ] [ three of a kind, aces -- Ac,Ah,Ad,Ks,Tc ]
Player5 balance $24.25, lost $0.25 (folded) [ XX XX 4h ]
Player6 balance $7.50, lost $0.50 (folded) [ XX XX 8c 2s ]
Player7 balance $46.50, lost $0.50 (folded) [ XX XX 2d 5c ]
Player8 balance $9.50, lost $5.50 [ Qh 7s 3h Qc 4d 4s 5h ] [ two pairs, queens and fours -- Qh,Qc,7s,4d,4s ]
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Old 04-27-2004, 05:39 PM #2 (permalink)  
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you're getting me really curious about 7 card stud. it just seems like a lot more to keep track of (compared to hold em).
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Old 04-27-2004, 11:35 PM #3 (permalink)  
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7 card isn't too bad IF your paying attention..

worst part for me is remember what was folded. Because if you see

Say you see someone with 33 and know that another 3 was folded on 5th street then you have more information on your opponent.

I do'nt think i could play 2 tables of 7 card like I can holdem.
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mmmmmmm rolled up trip aces, the hand stud players dream of. Nicely played with the patience 'til 5th street. I normally go for the check-raise there though; they're being the aggressor, let them think they should continue. It's a few extra bets in a pot you are most likely going to win.
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Old 09-01-2004, 02:20 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I found 7-stud much easier to play and more 1-dimensional vs. limit and no-limit holdem. To me reading folks isnt as important vs what cards are out and what was folded, making it less of a thinking game. However, knowing is someone is tight/aggressive vs loose/passive is still very important.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Krapp
I found 7-stud much easier to play and more 1-dimensional vs. limit and no-limit holdem.
The math is tougher, but it's a lot less about people and inspired play after 3rd/4rth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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