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Old 12-20-2004, 02:11 AM     Post subject: 6 max troubles #1 (permalink)  
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 I'm LOSING!!! Help. I think my preflop standards are fine, but my postflop betting/calling is not. I am calling down to the river way too much. Here are some hands for help (apologies for not converting, i was having bison bison problems):

***** Hand History for Game 1323264991 *****
$1/$2 Hold'em - Sunday, December 19, 21:36:05 EDT 2004
Table Table 18495 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Paatygirl ( $91.75 )
Seat 3: venjoe ( $49.25 )
Seat 5: stryder1 ( $45 )
Seat 6: elipsesjeff ( $64 )
Seat 8: blayz321 ( $55.75 )
Seat 10: Sapphire9579 ( $23.25 )
elipsesjeff posts small blind [$0.5].
blayz321 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to elipsesjeff [ Ac Qc ]
>You have options at Table 13079 (6 max) Table!.
Sapphire9579 calls [$1].
Paatygirl raises [$2].
stryder1 folds.
elipsesjeff raises [$2.5].
blayz321 calls [$2].
Sapphire9579 folds.
Paatygirl raises [$2].
elipsesjeff calls [$1].
blayz321 calls [$1].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, 9h, Th ]
elipsesjeff checks.
blayz321 checks.
Paatygirl bets [$1].
>You have options at Table 13079 (6 max) Table!.
elipsesjeff calls [$1].
blayz321 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
elipsesjeff checks.
Paatygirl bets [$2].
elipsesjeff calls [$2].
** Dealing River ** [ 7h ]
elipsesjeff checks.
Paatygirl bets [$2].
elipsesjeff calls [$2].
Paatygirl shows [ Kc, Ks ] a pair of kings.
elipsesjeff doesn't show [ Ac, Qc ] high card ace.
Paatygirl wins $22 from the main pot with a pair of kings.

***** Hand History for Game 1323228717 *****
$1/$2 Hold'em - Sunday, December 19, 21:28:24 EDT 2004
Table Table 18495 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Paatygirl ( $98.25 )
Seat 3: venjoe ( $18.25 )
Seat 5: stryder1 ( $50.5 )
Seat 6: elipsesjeff ( $87 )
Seat 8: blayz321 ( $44.25 )
Seat 10: Sapphire9579 ( $38.5 )
venjoe posts small blind [$0.5].
stryder1 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to elipsesjeff [ Jh As ]
>You have options at Table 13079 (6 max) Table!.
elipsesjeff raises [$2].
blayz321 calls [$2].
Sapphire9579 calls [$2].
Paatygirl folds.
venjoe raises [$2.5].
stryder1 calls [$2].
elipsesjeff raises [$2].
blayz321 calls [$2].
Sapphire9579 calls [$2].
venjoe calls [$1].
stryder1 calls [$1].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 2c, 3s ]
venjoe bets [$1].
stryder1 calls [$1].
elipsesjeff calls [$1].
blayz321 calls [$1].
Sapphire9579 raises [$2].
venjoe calls [$1].
stryder1 calls [$1].
elipsesjeff calls [$1].
blayz321 calls [$1].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
>You have options at Table 13079 (6 max) Table!.
venjoe checks.
stryder1 checks.
elipsesjeff checks.
blayz321 checks.
>You have options at Table 13079 (6 max) Table!.
Sapphire9579 bets [$2].
venjoe calls [$2].
stryder1 folds.
elipsesjeff calls [$2].
blayz321 calls [$2].
** Dealing River ** [ Th ]
>You have options at Table 13079 (6 max) Table!.
venjoe bets [$2].
elipsesjeff folds.
blayz321 folds.
Sapphire9579 calls [$2].
venjoe shows [ Qd, Qh ] two pairs, queens and tens.
Sapphire9579 doesn't show [ 9c, 9d ] two pairs, tens and nines.
venjoe wins $41 from the main pot with two pairs, queens and tens.

***** Hand History for Game 1323234471 *****
$1/$2 Hold'em - Sunday, December 19, 21:29:38 EDT 2004
Table Table 18495 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Paatygirl ( $98.25 )
Seat 3: venjoe ( $49.25 )
Seat 5: stryder1 ( $44.5 )
Seat 6: elipsesjeff ( $79 )
Seat 8: blayz321 ( $36.25 )
Seat 10: Sapphire9579 ( $28.5 )
stryder1 posts small blind [$0.5].
elipsesjeff posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to elipsesjeff [ Kd Qd ]
blayz321 calls [$1].
Sapphire9579 folds.
Paatygirl folds.
venjoe folds.
stryder1 calls [$0.5].
elipsesjeff raises [$1].
blayz321 calls [$1].
stryder1 calls [$1].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, 5d, 4h ]
stryder1 checks.
elipsesjeff bets [$1].
>You have options at Table 13079 (6 max) Table!.
blayz321 calls [$1].
stryder1 calls [$1].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
stryder1 checks.
elipsesjeff checks.
blayz321 bets [$2].
stryder1 folds.
elipsesjeff calls [$2].
** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
elipsesjeff checks.
blayz321 bets [$2].
elipsesjeff calls [$2].
blayz321 shows [ 6c, As ] a straight, four to eight.
elipsesjeff doesn't show [ Kd, Qd ] high card ace.
blayz321 wins $16.25 from the main pot with a straight, four to eight.

***** Hand History for Game 1323251185 *****
$1/$2 Hold'em - Sunday, December 19, 21:33:09 EDT 2004
Table Table 18495 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Paatygirl ( $94.25 )
Seat 3: venjoe ( $49.25 )
Seat 5: stryder1 ( $36 )
Seat 6: elipsesjeff ( $73.5 )
Seat 8: blayz321 ( $51.25 )
Seat 10: Sapphire9579 ( $28.25 )
elipsesjeff posts small blind [$0.5].
blayz321 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to elipsesjeff [ 8s Qh ]
>You have options at Table 13079 (6 max) Table!.
Sapphire9579 folds.
>You have options at Table 13079 (6 max) Table!.
Paatygirl folds.
stryder1 folds.
elipsesjeff raises [$1.5].
blayz321 calls [$1].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, Ts, 3d ]
elipsesjeff bets [$1].
blayz321 calls [$1].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ]
elipsesjeff bets [$2].
blayz321 calls [$2].
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
elipsesjeff bets [$2].
blayz321 calls [$2].
elipsesjeff shows [ 8s, Qh ] high card king.
blayz321 shows [ 4s, Ah ] high card ace.
blayz321 wins $13.25 from the main pot with high card ace.

***** Hand History for Game 1323258367 *****
$1/$2 Hold'em - Sunday, December 19, 21:34:40 EDT 2004
Table Table 18495 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Paatygirl ( $92.25 )
Seat 3: venjoe ( $49.25 )
Seat 5: stryder1 ( $39.5 )
Seat 6: elipsesjeff ( $72 )
Seat 8: blayz321 ( $52.5 )
Seat 10: Sapphire9579 ( $25.25 )
Paatygirl posts small blind [$0.5].
stryder1 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to elipsesjeff [ Jc Js ]
elipsesjeff raises [$2].
blayz321 calls [$2].
Sapphire9579 folds.
Paatygirl folds.
stryder1 calls [$1].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3h, Tc, Td ]
stryder1 checks.
elipsesjeff bets [$1].
blayz321 calls [$1].
stryder1 calls [$1].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6d ]
stryder1 checks.
elipsesjeff bets [$2].
blayz321 calls [$2].
stryder1 calls [$2].
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
stryder1 checks.
elipsesjeff bets [$2].
blayz321 calls [$2].
stryder1 calls [$2].
elipsesjeff shows [ Jc, Js ] two pairs, jacks and tens.
blayz321 doesn't show [ 2h, 2c ] two pairs, tens and twos.
stryder1 shows [ Qh, Qc ] two pairs, queens and tens.
stryder1 wins $20.5 from the main pot with two pairs, queens and tens.

***** Hand History for Game 1323295869 *****
$1/$2 Hold'em - Sunday, December 19, 21:42:38 EDT 2004
Table Table 13079 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Whip74 ( $117.75 )
Seat 5: ronman1958 ( $25.75 )
Seat 6: elipsesjeff ( $88 )
Seat 8: PHoldEm ( $88.63 )
Seat 10: wcsmm ( $46.99 )
elipsesjeff posts small blind [$0.5].
PHoldEm posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to elipsesjeff [ Th Tc ]
wcsmm calls [$1].
Whip74 folds.
ronman1958 folds.
elipsesjeff raises [$1.5].
PHoldEm calls [$1].
wcsmm calls [$1].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jd, 4h, 2s ]
elipsesjeff bets [$1].
PHoldEm calls [$1].
wcsmm raises [$2].
elipsesjeff calls [$1].
PHoldEm calls [$1].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
elipsesjeff checks.
PHoldEm checks.
wcsmm bets [$2].
elipsesjeff calls [$2].
>You have options at Table 18373 (6 max) Table!.
PHoldEm folds.
** Dealing River ** [ 5h ]
elipsesjeff checks.
wcsmm checks.
elipsesjeff shows [ Th, Tc ] a pair of tens.
wcsmm shows [ Ad, Jh ] a pair of jacks.
wcsmm wins $15.25 from the main pot with a pair of jacks.
Whip74 has left the table.

***** Hand History for Game 1323301058 *****
$1/$2 Hold'em - Sunday, December 19, 21:43:44 EDT 2004
Table Table 18373 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: PETE43 ( $93 )
Seat 5: JolietJoe ( $62.5 )
Seat 6: George310 ( $29.75 )
Seat 8: AllInHighACE ( $66.5 )
Seat 10: wiredpr ( $14.75 )
Seat 1: elipsesjeff ( $87 )
AllInHighACE posts small blind [$0.5].
wiredpr posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to elipsesjeff [ As 8s ]
elipsesjeff raises [$2].
PETE43 calls [$2].
JolietJoe calls [$2].
George310 folds.
AllInHighACE folds.
wiredpr calls [$1].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, Qc, 7h ]
wiredpr bets [$1].
elipsesjeff raises [$2].
PETE43 folds.
>You have options at Table 13079 (6 max) Table!.
JolietJoe folds.
wiredpr raises [$2].
elipsesjeff folds.
wiredpr does not show cards.
wiredpr wins $12.75



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Old 12-20-2004, 08:24 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Reads are everything for this hand. Playerview helps me make these kind of decisions.

Hand 2: Don't cap pre-flop, if it was 2 more back to you I'd fold. Turn is a call only because the pot is out of control.

Hand 3: Pre-flop is close between raising and checking. Check/calling the turn + river is really bad.

Hand 4: Reads are key here too. Sometimes you can give this one up on the turn or river.

Hand 5: Well played

Hand 6: Once again, what are his raising standards for pumping a draw-free board? You might be able to dump this on the flop, or certainly the turn.

Hand 7: Fold pre-flop
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