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Old 11-07-2004, 08:37 AM     Post subject: 6 max: Betting is under-rated #1 (permalink)  
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"Betting is under-rated" - Chris Daddy Cool

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with 7, 8.
UTG calls, MP folds, Button folds, SB completes, Fnord checks.

Flop: (3 SB) A, 7, 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Fnord bets, UTG calls, SB folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) T (2 players)
Fnord bets, UTG raises, Fnord 3-bets, UTG calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 3 (2 players)
Fnord bets, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has 7h 8s (three of a kind, sevens).
UTG has 6d As (two pair, aces and sevens).
Outcome: Fnord wins 10.50 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with T, 7.
UTG folds, MP raises, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, Fnord calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 7, 5, 9 (4 players)
SB checks, Fnord bets, MP folds, Button calls, SB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Fnord bets, Button calls, SB folds.

River: (7.50 BB) 9 (2 players)
Fnord bets, Button calls.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has Td 7d (two pair, nines and sevens).
Button has 6c As (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Fnord wins 9.50 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with Q, 8.
UTG folds, MP calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, Fnord checks.

Flop: (3 SB) 8, 8, A (3 players)
SB bets, Fnord raises, MP 3-bets, SB folds, Fnord caps, MP calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 2 (2 players)
Fnord bets, MP calls.

River: (8 BB) 5 (2 players)
Fnord bets, MP raises, Fnord calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has Qs 8h (three of a kind, eights).
MP has 5c As (two pair, aces and eights).
Outcome: Fnord wins 12 BB.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Fnord is Button with T, J.
UTG calls, MP calls, Fnord calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 9, J, 9 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, MP folds, Fnord raises, SB calls, BB folds, UTG 3-bets, Fnord calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) J (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Fnord bets, SB raises, UTG calls, Fnord 3-bets, SB calls, UTG calls.

River: (16 BB) A (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Fnord bets, SB calls, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 18 BB

Results in white below:
SB has 9s Kh (full house, nines full of jacks).
Fnord has Td Jc (full house, jacks full of nines).
Outcome: Fnord wins 18 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is MP with A, 4.
UTG calls, Fnord calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4.40 SB) A, A, 4 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Fnord bets, Button folds, BB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets, BB raises, Fnord 3-bets, BB calls.

River: (9.20 BB) J (2 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets, BB folds.

Final Pot: 10.20 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has Ad 4d (full house, aces full of fours).
Outcome: Fnord wins 10.20 BB.
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Old 11-07-2004, 01:51 PM #2 (permalink)  
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WTF mate? Should I start playing limit? Nah, tis for the weak. I think you are playing against blind people who think they are pressing the fold button. Too bad it says call. You ever have anyone who accidentally called you twice? Yes that seems to happen to me, it looks amazingly like they were going after a gut shot stragiht draw though, but they swear they pressed the wrong button twice... W00t Party Poker and its Skin of Empire! PUNISH those who draw! Unless it is me.
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WTF mate? Should I start playing limit? Nah, tis for the weak. I think you are playing against blind people who think they are pressing the fold button. Too bad it says call. You ever have anyone who accidentally called you twice? Yes that seems to happen to me, it looks amazingly like they were going after a gut shot stragiht draw though, but they swear they pressed the wrong button twice... W00t Party Poker and its Skin of Empire! PUNISH those who draw! Unless it is me.
no...but i have raised on the turn with complete garbage because absolute has hotkeys, and while i was type notes for some dude the table pops up with an option and it selected raise for me and i was like WTF!!!
 
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lol that sux man
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Old 11-07-2004, 10:38 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Dealing more with your betting comment than the 6-max. This hand falls into play.

I hate calling a raise/3bet with this hand, but I equally hate checking/calling. I don't want to give up all aggression.

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Humphrind is MP3 with J, J. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Humphrind raises, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (9 SB) T, 7, 4 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, MP1 folds, Humphrind raises, SB folds, UTG 3-bets, Humphrind calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 2 (2 players)
UTG bets, Humphrind raises, UTG 3-bets, Humphrind calls.

River: (13.50 BB) 6 (2 players)
UTG bets, Humphrind calls.

Final Pot: 15.50 BB
I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
 
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Old 11-08-2004, 12:45 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Humph,

In position I like to cap the flop with a hand like that and see how UTG reacts.

If he bets the turn, call it down. If he c/r's the turn it's probably a fold. Against the right opponent I might even check behind on the turn to defuse a check/raise.

My default read in small stakes full table hold'em games is plays too many hands, calls too much and doesn't raise enough until shown otherwise.
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Old 11-08-2004, 05:24 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Preflop: Fnord is BB with 6, 4.
UTG folds, MP calls, Button raises, SB folds, Fnord calls, MP calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) J, 3, A (3 players)
Fnord bets, MP folds, Button raises, Fnord calls.

Turn: (5.20 BB) 6 (2 players)
Fnord bets, Button raises, Fnord 3-bets, Button calls.

River: (11.20 BB) 8 (2 players)
Fnord bets, Button calls.

Final Pot: 13.20 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has 6c 4c (flush, ace high).
Button has Qs Qc (one pair, queens).
Outcome: Fnord wins 13.20 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is BB with T, T.
UTG calls, MP folds, Button raises, SB calls, Fnord 3-bets, UTG folds, Button caps, SB folds, Fnord calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 3, 4, 6 (2 players)
Fnord bets, Button raises, Fnord 3-bets, Button calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 6 (2 players)
Fnord bets, Button calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 2 (2 players)
Fnord bets, Button calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has Th Td (two pair, tens and sixes).
Button has Qh Qs (two pair, queens and sixes).
Outcome: Button wins 12.50 BB.
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Old 11-08-2004, 10:24 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Quote:
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Humph,

In position I like to cap the flop with a hand like that and see how UTG reacts.

If he bets the turn, call it down. If he c/r's the turn it's probably a fold. Against the right opponent I might even check behind on the turn to defuse a check/raise.

My default read in small stakes full table hold'em games is plays too many hands, calls too much and doesn't raise enough until shown otherwise.
Cap the flop and call the turn/river? Hmmmm. I can see the benefit from this.

So you think I maintained too much aggression on the turn by raising? I can see that.

BTW - UTG had ATo and I took this pot.
I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
 
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