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Old 08-22-2008, 04:30 AM     Post subject: 5th Level Nightmare #1 (permalink)  
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Live limit game. A good friend of mine, who's logged in thousands of hands together, is the villain. We email, text, and talk about hands every day... so we both know exactly how we think, which lead to this ridiculous leveling:

Folded to me OTB, I raise JJ. Sb folds, BB calls.

FLOP (hu)
KK4 r
He c/r, I call. He could have absolutely anything, but I don't put him on K. My plan is to raise any turn... until ...

TURN
J (KK4) - giving me J's / full!

He leads. When I saw the turn hit, giving me a lock, I didn't raise, now actually wanting him around on the river. "I'll wait till the river," I heard a voice in my head. (Occasionally, I DO hear voices, but we'll leave that for my therapy session).

RIVER
Q (KK4J)

He leads again, which is exactly what I want. I raised, he looked at me, thought for a second, and 3-bet. WTF! My first read was he rivered Q's/ full K's, because he knows that I'd never raise that river w/out, at least a K. (I'd expect a 3-bet preflop, but HU, he may think I'm on a total steal... and want me to think he has nothing). Maybe he hit runner-runner str8? "I let you get there, didn't I," I asked him. He just gave me a cocky smile. I only called his river 3-bet.

Thoughts on the horrendously-played flop, turn, and river, plze. I may be the worst player in Northern America.

Results to follow...
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:44 AM #2 (permalink)  
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If you planned to raise any turn, you should have raised any turn

The raise is a value bet because you don't give him credit for a king, correct? So why does it matter if you improved or not? You expect him to call. If you think he folds hands that do not contain a king, raising would be bad, calling would be better if you don't get a jack on the turn.

So the way you planned the hand wasn't correct
Now explain your reasoning
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Old 08-25-2008, 11:37 AM #3 (permalink)  
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i'd def. raise the turn, hoping he does have the K and 3bets, so i can 4bet
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Old 08-27-2008, 07:09 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by iopq
If you planned to raise any turn, you should have raised any turn

The raise is a value bet because you don't give him credit for a king, correct? So why does it matter if you improved or not? You expect him to call. If you think he folds hands that do not contain a king, raising would be bad, calling would be better if you don't get a jack on the turn.

So the way you planned the hand wasn't correct
Now explain your reasoning
I know you're right. I became the LHE player I hate.

My reasoning: Lol, I just simply out-leveled myself, trying to level him. Simply put- terribly played, especially after the result:

He smooth called the BB w/ AK, flopping trips! Damn, I'm the best. I lost 5-7 bb's.
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