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Old 11-04-2007, 02:48 PM     Post subject: 5CD: Raise Aces pre with limper? #1 (permalink)  
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 PokerStars Game #13034691515: 5 Card Draw Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/11/04 - 10:45:42 (ET)
Table 'Vela III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: easyrider56 ($42.75 in chips)
Seat 2: droopysully ($19.75 in chips)
Seat 3: pokerdog1 ($71 in chips)
Seat 4: Ginmaniac ($55.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Forty2u ($38.25 in chips)
Seat 6: startripper ($42.75 in chips)
Forty2u: posts small blind $0.50
startripper: posts big blind $1
*** DEALING HANDS ***
Dealt to Forty2u [Kc Ad Jd As 7d]
easyrider56: calls $1
droopysully: folds
pokerdog1: folds
Ginmaniac: folds
Forty2u: raises $1 to $2
startripper: folds
easyrider56: calls $1
Forty2u: discards 3 cards [Kc Jd 7d]
Dealt to Forty2u [Ad As] [4s 3s 4c]
easyrider56: discards 1 card
Forty2u: bets $2
easyrider56: folds
Forty2u collected $4.75 from pot
Forty2u: doesn't show hand
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Old 11-04-2007, 10:56 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Looks fine. Raising helps get the pot heads-up with the best hand.
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:27 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Standard. I raise weaker hands here and it's a great spot for a pat bluff as well.

Unless UTG is a regular open-raiser TAggy sort, then either fold pre-draw or just complete because he's often trapping.
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I agree with Fnord. It's important to pay attention to what people limp with. Put notes on the players who limps with big hands or likes to trap predraw. At $1 $2 a limp is usually a small pair or a draw so raising is correct.

An interesting question would be whether raising 3 limpers with AA or limp along is the best play.
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I agree with Fnord. It's important to pay attention to what people limp with. Put notes on the players who limps with big hands or likes to trap predraw. At $1 $2 a limp is usually a small pair or a draw so raising is correct.

An interesting question would be whether raising 3 limpers with AA or limp along is the best play.
In limit (at least low limit) a limper will almost always call a raise, at pot limit you may take the pot right there or have 1 villian


 
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Old 02-10-2008, 04:37 AM #6 (permalink)  
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The raise is good but the post draw bet isn't. What does he limp with that he calls unimproved? maybe low 2 pair?? but I doubt it...most likely a draw and he only calls if he hits. If you check it might encourage him to bet his miss and you make a bet, if he hits and you call then it saves you from being reraised when he hits and you bet into him....overall this is a check call senario
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Mr pokah, with 3 limpers and you have aces is a raise....you have the best hand, so get in while your ahead....you have just as good of odds to improve as they do....
As a general rule in limit draw, you should always enter the pot with a raise and only limp if your in the blinds with proper odds for a draw...
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Post-draw depends on your read. This might be a small 2 pair often enough to bet/fold for value.
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Old 02-16-2008, 02:26 AM #9 (permalink)  
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If your going to bet fold, your better off check calling. I find you will see people bet out more often with the worse hand then calling.
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If your going to bet fold, your better off check calling.
Not with my table image *cackle*

My observation is that 5cd players suck at value betting and balancing ranges.
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