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Old 12-08-2007, 08:54 PM     Post subject: 50PLO - Is this retarded? and 2 more hands #1 (permalink)  
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 I need to work on getting reads. I was doing good at 10PLO because people played their hands face up. At 25PLO on the weekend I gave up because people were over-playing too much crap so nut hunting was way profitable. I got to this point in holdem where people start being somewhat tricky, but not really. Not sure what my point is.

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UTG ($57.15)
MP ($20)
CO ($246.90)
Button ($99.40)
Hero ($85.65)
BB ($24.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, K, K, 4. MP posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $0.50, MP (poster) checks, 1 fold, Button calls $0.50, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.50) 9, A, 4 (5 players)
Hero bets $2, BB calls $2, UTG folds, MP folds, Button calls $2.

Turn: ($8.50) A (3 players)
Hero bets $6,

Hand 2 - I'm planning on folding to a raise at any point
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BB ($50)
UTG ($69.35)
MP ($86.40)
CO ($74.20)
Button ($53.55)
Hero ($51.95)

Preflop: Hero is SB with , , , .
4 folds, Hero raises to $1.5, BB raises to $4.5, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($9) , , (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

Turn: ($9) (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BB calls $6.

River: ($21) (2 players)
Hero bets $10,

Hand 3 - river for value, I puke if I get raised
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Button ($26.25)
SB ($15)
BB ($241.90)
UTG ($103.05)
Hero ($69.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP with , , , .
UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $1.5, 1 fold, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1, UTG calls $1.

Flop: ($6) , , (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($6) (4 players)
SB bets $1.5, BB folds, UTG calls $1.50, Hero raises to $10, SB raises to $13.5, UTG calls $12, Hero calls $3.50.

River: ($46.50) (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $20,
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Old 12-08-2007, 09:06 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 1 - I would think a check would be much better, the ace was good and bad right?
2 - Definitely bet. I would think most people would be scurred of the fd if they had KT and would at least raise the turn wouldn't they? Still should prolly fold to a raise I spose...
3 - Meh, any reads? I don't see how this could be AA or 55 the way it was played by utg. SB might have you beat so get more value. I'm calling a push.

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Old 12-08-2007, 09:07 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 I want to hear your thought process in hand 1 sir, what hands do you put them on on the turn? If either has a smaller flush draw they're drawing dead for the most part (maybe like 5-7% with a wheel draw or 9/4). Otherwise you're toast on the turn, never getting a naked Ace to fold, and have no idea where you're at if the river comes a spade or even a King.

B/f the river in hand 2 is bad, he should never have KTxx after the turn action. Therefore you have the nuts. Frankly he'll never have KTxx here UNLESS it's KdTdxx or KdTxXdYx.

Hand 3 your hand couldn't be more face up. I like small value here, something like $12-15 and it is really a puke spot if you get pot-raised. We have to ask ourselves what the UTG player flat calls two raises with on the turn, my guess, the nuts (AA/55) or the nut flush. However, once he knocks the river it's easy value against hands like QdJd/A5xx/K5xx/5xxx.

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Old 12-08-2007, 10:04 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1 - my hand is crap, I'm not planning on going any further. Against one opponent is this better (bruff)? I guess against 2 it's spew.

Hand 2 - gotcha, even KdxdTx has to raise to trap another KT for freeroll.

Hand 3 - this villain bets flop with nut flush. He either has non-nut flush or A5 IMO. I've gotten slow played a couple times today
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:13 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 lol, just reread title.

Hand 1 - What I was thinking. "hmmm, wonder if I should bet this or would that be retarded"
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