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Old 10-01-2009, 08:35 AM     Post subject: 500k LHE hands, I SUX :/ #1 (permalink)  
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my winrate has gone down quite a bit.
Mostly my own fault, been too lazy all summer.

1/2 6m and 1/2 FR, are weird cause latest PT3 has switched some hands from one to the other, so thats the only thing not my fault (6max should be higher and FR lower). Apparently now it checks the header of the HH for table size where before it checked the nr of players dealt in the hand, so a lot of short handed FR has gone from 6max to FR.
I'm seriously considering HEM anyways.

Apart from that, see for yourselves... It is all mostly FAIL

I really need to get back to work...
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:14 AM     Post subject: Re: 500k LHE hands, I SUX :/ #2 (permalink)  
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Apart from that, see for yourselves... It is all mostly FAIL
Not really. Your winrate is not what it was but teh limitz online is harder now.
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Old 10-01-2009, 01:27 PM #3 (permalink)  
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You seriously only fold 38% of the big blind to a steal?

Otherwise 1 ptbb/100 at 3/6 both 6max and full ring is still not "Bad" and better than most. It also depends on how many tables you play too as if you 8 table then obviously 1 ptbb/100 is really good, if you 1 table 1 ptbb/100 probably isn't that good.


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Old 10-01-2009, 02:23 PM #4 (permalink)  
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before jumping into HEM, like i did, you need to consider a couple of things i have discovered...

- it is more difficult to find things like "specific holdings' profitability" and position stats.
- it is an immense program that will bog your computer down and use a ton of RAM. at least on mine. it can affect how many tables you run. when 6tabling, things dont really matter, but when i 12+ table the DONs, it really bogs down.

the graphing features are great, and so are the filters. but, i have a hard time rearranging things within what i want to look at. and, some things i still havent figured out. i just dont think it's as user-friendly as PT. and, if i had my way i would have purchased PT3 instead of HEM.

just one guy's opinion.
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:32 PM #5 (permalink)  
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as for your shots...

i feel you have almost trained a lot of the way i think, juan, and i have to say, we may be overly aggressive at times for TODAY's games. i think we have the tendency to default to "max value with medium hands" because we feel we can read the other guy better, and we feel an overwhelming need for "balance." so, we tend to keep the throttle down. instead of earning max value, we also blow people off pots.

sure, we know how to induce bluffs, but we don't know when to sit back and take it easy with them. we adjust to certain villains, but don't tend to let them spew off multiple streets often enough because...

we are too concerned with slowplaying, and getting burned, and giving free cards, and not grabbing all the value we can in a game where max value is absolutely critical.

lately, i have been all over Lawdude for not maxxing value in some spots, but he has also tempered me a bit, too. from going back to SSHE and HEFAP, for the fundamentals, i have focused on passivity a bit more often. it does a couple of things...

- makes you hella tough to read.
- earns you more because these fools think you turned off the gas because you are beat.
- allows you to play some other crappy stuff cheaper.
- allows you to keep some odds in your favor.

dont get me wrong, i am still a HUGE fan of aggression. but, i cant help but wonder if the dynamic of TODAY's games has changed to such an aggressive format that playing passive isn't almost a little better way to go at times. the games are very "bluffy" and i can only imagine the higher levels are worse.

guys are so concerned with value betting Ahi that they kind of screw themselves when the stations are out there. the only trick to my strategy, that i am focusing on, is to balance between being a station and lag (not that i could ever be a lag).....and bouncing back and forth. i overlimp a lot more now, and i wait for the river more, and i still know when i am up against a station so i value bet the shit out of HIM!

just a guess from one great mind to another....lol.
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:17 PM #6 (permalink)  
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You seriously only fold 38% of the big blind to a steal?
yeah, seriously. I mean, 40% is what is "considered" optimal vs your average 40% at2st, so i think that is fine.

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Otherwise 1 ptbb/100 at 3/6 both 6max and full ring is still not "Bad" and better than most. It also depends on how many tables you play too as if you 8 table then obviously 1 ptbb/100 is really good, if you 1 table 1 ptbb/100 probably isn't that good.
yeah, i do multitable more and more, and i am in the top of the "biggest winners" list on FTP LHE 3/6 for the year 2009.
http://www.pokertableratings.com/ful...rs-year/3-6-FL

still, whereas sometimes you can feel variance is the reason for a decrease in overall EV for your game, I am pretty sure most of this decrease over the past few months has been my own fault.

Bad part, I am to blame.
Good part, I can fix it.
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Old 10-02-2009, 12:19 PM #7 (permalink)  
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as for your shots...

i feel you have almost trained a lot of the way i think, juan, and i have to say, we may be overly aggressive at times for TODAY's games. i think we have the tendency to default to "max value with medium hands" because we feel we can read the other guy better, and we feel an overwhelming need for "balance." so, we tend to keep the throttle down. instead of earning max value, we also blow people off pots.

sure, we know how to induce bluffs, but we don't know when to sit back and take it easy with them. we adjust to certain villains, but don't tend to let them spew off multiple streets often enough because...

we are too concerned with slowplaying, and getting burned, and giving free cards, and not grabbing all the value we can in a game where max value is absolutely critical.

lately, i have been all over Lawdude for not maxxing value in some spots, but he has also tempered me a bit, too. from going back to SSHE and HEFAP, for the fundamentals, i have focused on passivity a bit more often. it does a couple of things...

- makes you hella tough to read.
- earns you more because these fools think you turned off the gas because you are beat.
- allows you to play some other crappy stuff cheaper.
- allows you to keep some odds in your favor.

dont get me wrong, i am still a HUGE fan of aggression. but, i cant help but wonder if the dynamic of TODAY's games has changed to such an aggressive format that playing passive isn't almost a little better way to go at times. the games are very "bluffy" and i can only imagine the higher levels are worse.

guys are so concerned with value betting Ahi that they kind of screw themselves when the stations are out there. the only trick to my strategy, that i am focusing on, is to balance between being a station and lag (not that i could ever be a lag).....and bouncing back and forth. i overlimp a lot more now, and i wait for the river more, and i still know when i am up against a station so i value bet the shit out of HIM!

just a guess from one great mind to another....lol.
not sure, not sure, lemme think about this and post a lengthier response afterwards...
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