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Old 02-08-2005, 01:57 AM     Post subject: 5 AQo hands from tonight. #1 (permalink)  
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Comments / Input please..

#1
BB = Loose passive/ Aggressive

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Preflop: mike4066 is CO with A, Q.
6 folds, mike4066 raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) Q, J, 5 (4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, mike4066 raises, SB calls, BB 3-bets, mike4066 calls, SB folds.

Turn: (7 BB) K (3 players)
BB bets, mike4066 calls.

River: (9 BB) 4 (3 players)
BB bets, mike4066 calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB

BB Wins 11BBs a set of 5's 5h 5d

#2
UTG = Table Maniac.. 60/30

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Preflop: mike4066 is Button with Q, A.
UTG raises, 3 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, mike4066 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG caps, MP3 calls, CO calls, mike4066 calls, BB calls.

Flop: (20.50 SB) J, 3, 5 (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, mike4066 bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (12.75 BB) 2 (5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, mike4066 checks.

River: (12.75 BB) 8 (5 players)
BB bets, UTG folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, mike4066 folds.

Final Pot: 14.75 BB

BB wins with Kd Kh
CO has 99


#3
UTG = Loose passive
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Preflop: mike4066 is MP3 with Q, A.
UTG calls, 4 folds, mike4066 raises, 3 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 7, 3, 6 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, mike4066 bets, BB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) K (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, mike4066 checks.

River: (4.75 BB) Q (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, mike4066 calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 6.75 BB

UTG has KJs (diamonds) and wins with a pair of K's

#4
SB = Loose Passive
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Preflop: mike4066 is MP2 with Q, A.
3 folds, mike4066 raises, 3 folds, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) 6, 8, 3 (2 players)
SB checks, mike4066 bets, SB raises, mike4066 calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) T (2 players)
SB bets, mike4066 folds.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB


#5
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Preflop: mike4066 is BB with Q, A.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 4 folds, mike4066 checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 9, 4, T (4 players)
mike4066 checks, UTG+1 bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, mike4066 calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 3 (4 players)
mike4066 checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks.

River: (4.25 BB) 8 (4 players)
mike4066 checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: 4.25 BB
UTG+1 has a pair of Jacks J9o and wins
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Old 02-08-2005, 02:06 AM #2 (permalink)  
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hand 1: i like
hand 2: with 2 overcards you have enough pot equity to bet the turn...but checking's probably still the better play
hand 3: i like
hand 4: fine
hand 5: mike4066 checks...what the fug?
 
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Old 02-08-2005, 03:26 AM     Post subject: Re: 5 AQo hands from tonight. #3 (permalink)  

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Comments / Input please..

#1
BB = Loose passive/ Aggressive

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Preflop: mike4066 is CO with A, Q.
6 folds, mike4066 raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) Q, J, 5 (4 players)
SB bets, BB calls, mike4066 raises, SB calls, BB 3-bets, mike4066 calls, SB folds.

Turn: (7 BB) K (3 players)
BB bets, mike4066 calls.

River: (9 BB) 4 (3 players)
BB bets, mike4066 calls.

Final Pot: 11 BB
Why?

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SB = Loose Passive
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Preflop: mike4066 is MP2 with Q, A.
3 folds, mike4066 raises, 3 folds, SB calls, 1 fold.

Flop: (5 SB) 6, 8, 3 (2 players)
SB checks, mike4066 bets, SB raises, mike4066 calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) T (2 players)
SB bets, mike4066 folds.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB
This is a complicated situation.
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Old 02-08-2005, 03:39 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I still think he made the right play by checking through the hand. I think someone might have a low pair. If he played more agressively on the flop and the turn, then I would have considered it, but he called and checked. You can't win with nothing...
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Old 02-08-2005, 07:10 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: I cap the flop and check behind on that turn card.
Hand 2: Meh on the turn.
Hand 3: Tough river, pot is small enough to laydown.
Hand 4: I usually call his punk ass down.
Hand 5: Raise pre-flop. However, with an unraised pot, I would just fold on the flop.
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Old 02-08-2005, 12:09 PM     Post subject: Re: 5 AQo hands from tonight. #6 (permalink)  
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Why?
Why what?


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This is a complicated situation.
Yep, SB gets ballsy on a raggy board, what can i expect?



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Hand 1: I cap the flop and check behind on that turn card.
Even after the BB call/raises? If it were the same bettor I would have probably capped, but the BB Called then re-raised after I raised.

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Hand 2: Meh on the turn.
Well I've been spewing chips and trying to slow down a bit with un-improved cards.
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Hand 3: Tough river, pot is small enough to laydown.
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Hand 4: I usually call his punk ass down.
Heads up AQo does have some showdown value, but fighting with the SB sucks here. Its too easy for him to have suited trash that paired up.

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Hand 5: Raise pre-flop. However, with an unraised pot, I would just fold on the flop
I thought about raising preflop but I don't like being out of position post flop.
As for calling the flop, I figured since I can close the action for 1 SB bet @ 7:1 i have odds to call with 6 outs.
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Old 02-08-2005, 12:33 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 I like your play pretty much. There not much you can do when you have AQ and it doesn't hit anything on the flop, especially with overly aggressives raising with all junk cards on the board.

Then the one where you do hit, one jackass cold calling QJ flops too pair, although he was dominated. Not much you can do here also.

I like your turn and river play. Raising the flop for the free turn card is a big favorite of mine.


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Old 02-08-2005, 01:46 PM     Post subject: Re: 5 AQo hands from tonight. #8 (permalink)  

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Why?
Why what?
Why call?
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Old 02-08-2005, 02:47 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Why call down?
I wasn't flolding to the 3bet on the flop. After that we were heads up figured i'd just call down.

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Old 02-08-2005, 08:43 PM #10 (permalink)  
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H2: Looks like BB missed a CR on the turn?

At that point I would have assumed he should bet out, 'cause he's not CR'ing anyone off the large pot, and any draws are probably going to call any bet.
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Old 02-08-2005, 10:54 PM #11 (permalink)  
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H2: Looks like BB missed a CR on the turn?

At that point I would have assumed he should bet out, 'cause he's not CR'ing anyone off the large pot, and any draws are probably going to call any bet.
I doubt it. 99 with an over card is nothing too spectacular. If he was going to check raise it woulda been the flop. He bet out because Mike checked the turn. If it checks around, it usually means no one has top pair, thus his 99 would be good. Which, it was.


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Old 02-09-2005, 01:29 AM     Post subject: Re: 5 AQo hands from tonight. #12 (permalink)  
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Heads up AQo does have some showdown value, but fighting with the SB sucks here. Its too easy for him to have suited trash that paired up.
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Preflop: Fnord is Button with T, A.
2 folds, Fnord raises, SB 3-bets, 1 fold, Fnord calls.

Flop: (7 SB) J, 9, 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Fnord bets, SB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 3 (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 4 (2 players)
SB bets, Fnord calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Results in white below:
SB has 5c 8d (high card, jack).
Fnord has Td Ac (high card, ace).
Outcome: Fnord wins 8.50 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is Button with T, A.
6 folds, Fnord raises, 1 fold, BB calls.

Flop: (4.33 SB) 8, 8, 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets, BB raises, Fnord calls.

Turn: (4.16 BB) 3 (2 players)
BB bets, Fnord calls.

River: (6.16 BB) 4 (2 players)
BB bets, Fnord calls.

Final Pot: 8.16 BB

Results in white below:
BB has Jh Qs (one pair, eights).
Fnord has Ts Ac (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Fnord wins 8.16 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is Button with J, K.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 4 folds, Fnord raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB) 8, 9, 9 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 folds, Fnord bets, BB raises, Fnord calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) T (2 players)
BB bets, Fnord calls.

River: (7.16 BB) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Fnord checks.

Final Pot: 7.16 BB

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BB has 4c Qc (three of a kind, nines).
Fnord has Js Kc (three of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Fnord wins 7.16 BB.

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Preflop: Fnord is UTG+1 with A, K.
1 fold, Fnord raises, 1 fold, MP2 3-bets, 2 folds, Button calls, 2 folds, Fnord caps, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Flop: (13.33 SB) J, 8, 3 (3 players)
Fnord bets, MP2 raises, Button folds, Fnord calls.

Turn: (8.66 BB) 6 (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 bets, Fnord calls.

River: (10.66 BB) 5 (2 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 bets, Fnord calls.

Final Pot: 12.66 BB

Results in white below:
Fnord has As Kh (high card, ace).
MP2 has Ah 2h (high card, ace).
Outcome: Fnord wins 12.66 BB.
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Old 02-09-2005, 05:38 AM #13 (permalink)  
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What the hell?

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Old 02-09-2005, 07:36 AM #14 (permalink)  
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To be fair, I had a read that hand. He was a certified maniac.
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Old 02-10-2005, 05:44 AM #15 (permalink)  
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H2: Looks like BB missed a CR on the turn?

At that point I would have assumed he should bet out, 'cause he's not CR'ing anyone off the large pot, and any draws are probably going to call any bet.
I doubt it. 99 with an over card is nothing too spectacular. If he was going to check raise it woulda been the flop. He bet out because Mike checked the turn. If it checks around, it usually means no one has top pair, thus his 99 would be good. Which, it was.
I think CO had 99...I was refering to the BB in hand #2. Looks like he called the flop and was going to try to surprise the table with a CR...but it checked around. So he bet on the river. Can't see how he didn't bet out on the turn though.

Question though: Since the pot was so big, he wasn't gonna scare away a flush draw. Given that, shouldn't have just bet out on the turn for value?
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