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01-09-2005, 05:02 AM
Post subject: .5/1 Teaching bad habits?
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Full House
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I have been reading two plus two forums quite a bit and it seems as though one should not play suited aces lower than a8s out of the blinds, yet ssh suggests that it is profitable even in early position because of the loose play, plus when you flop a flush draw it easier to check raise from middle position then from late. I know I shouldn't be using chart to guide my preflop play but at the moment there a lot of things I do not understand. Thank you in advance for your replies.
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basically most online games aren't loose enough to play all suited aces. even the party 0.5/1 aren't as loose as what SSH's loose tables are geared towards.
anyways, i play lower suited aces middle position and on.
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It really depends on how much gamble you have in you, the table texture and number of limpers.
In a loose/passive take to the river game Axs, K8+s and 55-22 become the perfect hands to wield against the masses of loose calls. Suited connectors are playable too if you want to get in there and gamble with the brain-dead.
In tighter games I probably am too loose with some of these hands, but it really comes down to the specific situation. Sometimes I feel that I just need any playable hands for a particular situaiton to be +EV and I'll go for it.
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I'm playing AX suited in any position. It's good for two bets preflop regardless of the number of players. Against many players, you have odds to draw. Against just a couple, your ace may not need a kicker. I'm attacking the blinds with AXs if I'm in LP and it's folded to me.
When AXs hits, it hits HUUUGE. I believe it is more profitable for me than AA.
ChezJ
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Originally Posted by ChezJ
.....When AXs hits, it hits HUUUGE. I believe it is more profitable for me than AA.
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When it hits, that qualifier is bigger than you seem to state. This is also very table dependent. You may want to buy poker tracker and run through some stats.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by ChezJ
When AXs hits, it hits HUUUGE. I believe it is more profitable for me than AA.
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Sample size. AA is too g00t.
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ChezJ
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don't have pokertracker, but i do manually record everything as i play. i was surprised to discover that my AA's have been extremely profitable this week, not getting cracked once. and yes, i am missing the flop with AXs quite a bit, more than i realized. funny how my subjective memory only hangs onto the wins with AXs and the losses with AA!
the more i think about it, i guess AXs should only be played in LP when you know there's multiway action. i need to look up the odds of actually flopping a draw with AXs.
i still like the blind steal with AXs in LP. my records show it is a real winner against weak opponents. even if someone calls, you can flop a medium pair and they'll have no idea you actually hit. or you can bet out your ace high and still win.
ChezJ
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stevedonel
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Originally Posted by ChezJ
.....the more i think about it, i guess AXs should only be played in LP when you know there's multiway action. i need to look up the odds of actually flopping a draw with AXs.........
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Generally late position, or it can be played in early position if the table is allowing alot of unraised multiway hands preflop.
With suited cards in your hand, the odds of flopping a flush draw are about 7.5 to 1, the odds of flopping a flush are 118 to 1.
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