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Chicago_Kid
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02-05-2005, 11:16 PM
Post subject: 4 more hands for feedback
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Hand #1
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , 9 .
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO calls.
Flop: (12 SB) 4 , 8 , 9 (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, CO bets, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, CO calls.
Turn: (11 BB) 3 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.
River: (16 BB) A (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO bets, Hero calls, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.
Final Pot: 20 BB
Hand #2
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is SB with J , A .
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, Button calls.
Flop: (17 SB) 8 , 6 , 5 (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets, MP2 folds, Button calls, Hero calls, UTG calls.
Turn: (10.50 BB) J (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets, Button calls, Hero raises, UTG folds, MP1 calls, Button calls.
River: (16.50 BB) Q (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets, Button folds, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 18.50 BB
Hand #3
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 4 , 4 .
1 fold, Hero calls, 3 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB checks.
Flop: (3.50 SB) 5 , 2 , Q (3 players)
BB bets, Hero folds, CO folds.
Final Pot: 2.25 BB
Hand #4
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (6 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is SB with A , A .
UTG calls, MP raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.
Flop: (12 SB) 4 , 2 , K (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.
Turn: (12 BB) Q (4 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG raises, MP calls, Hero calls, BB calls.
River: (20 BB) J (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets, MP calls, Hero folds, BB calls.
Final Pot: 23 BB
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|~|ypermegachi
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hehe you seem to be pretty LAGGGGGGG....
hand 1:
normally i limp this as well...but i raise ATs, so it's close regardless. well played post flop.
hand 2:
well played
hand 3:
fine.
hand 4:
hero folds....what are you smoking? i want some! horrible river fold.
3bet the turn. call the river. you don't think you can win in this situation more than 4% of the time?
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Trikflow77
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Hand 1: I would not make this raise my defult play. Post flop well played.
hand 2: 3 betting in the blinds with aj is a ssh play that I will make with A LOT of limpers in front. You got to raise the flop here if you 3 bet it pre flop. I guess your c/r on the turn was effective though. Big pot you have to call the river though.
Hand 3: I fold pre flop.
Hand 4: three bet turn call river. Huge pot do not fold for one bet. Could easily have ak.
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Originally Posted by trikflow77
hand 2: 3 betting in the blinds with aj is a ssh play that I will make with A LOT of limpers in front. You got to raise the flop here if you 3 bet it pre flop. I guess your c/r on the turn was effective though. Big pot you have to call the river though.
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raising the flop is bad. hero has backdoor nut flush, and 2 overs which is good enough to call. however, someone to his left bet, and if hero raises everyone will call getting 20:1. the board is coordinated for both straights and flushes. hero is first to act, so raising does not buy him a free card.
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Trikflow77
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i understand that but he 3 bet the hand from the blinds. If a person from late position bets Im raising every time to make the rest of the field call two cold.
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Originally Posted by trikflow77
i understand that but he 3 bet the hand from the blinds. If a person from late position bets Im raising every time to make the rest of the field call two cold.
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they aren't calling cold. MP1 and the Button are NOT folding. you are only making one person call cold, and that's UTG, and even he is getting over 10:1 to call.
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Chicago_Kid
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Originally Posted by hypermegachi
hehe you seem to be pretty LAGGGGGGG....
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Yeah, still learning to pick my spots. I do need to watch myself in spots like this.
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Chicago_Kid
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More specifically on AJ hand, I didn't raise the flop because it was coordinated and I thought I'd only be pumping a pot for someone else on a draw. I also don't like to bet out b/c almost anyone is calling, and I wanted to play it like I might check-raise or be slow-playing trips until the turn.
Once the J hit on the turn, I was going to try to raise for value, because I figured I was ahead.
However, as you guys were discussing, was my turn raise a bad move? Should I have played it like the flop and just called? I thought I might have enough pot equity to raise here, even though I realized that there were a bunch of cards which could potentially sink me on the river.
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Chicago_Kid
However, as you guys were discussing, was my turn raise a bad move? Should I have played it like the flop and just called? I thought I might have enough pot equity to raise here, even though I realized that there were a bunch of cards which could potentially sink me on the river.
Thanks.
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you're about even money vs the flush drawer on the flop. but 2:1 on the turn. raise for value.
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Hand 1: Nice Raise preflop here, build that pot. I think the only question you really would have asked here is: Was the preflop raise okay? (which it was) And what you should do on the river? I would raise here only because CO could bet betting with AK. That, and as long as those other goofs are along for the ride bleed them for chips as well.
But a call is understandable.
hand 2: I dont mind anything you did here, except you should have bet out on the river; Got to REPRESENT!. Too much stop and go.
Hand 3: Fold preflop.
Hand 4: Don't lead the flop here, if you bet out, anyone and everyone will have odds to draw against you. You MUST check raise here, dont give odds to people drawing. Why did you fold this on the river? NEVER fold a 23 BB pot for 1 Bet with TPTK.... You hear me? NEVER!!!!!
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