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Chicago_Kid

02-04-2005, 05:20 PM Post subject: 4 Hands for Feedback

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Ok...my first shot at posting hands here at FTR, and I'm just learning. Anyway, pretty sure I made some mistakes (once I really LOOK at them, I start to see leaks), but I wanted to poll the group. Feedback is appreciated.

Four hands from one session. Pretty LP-Py group...while I play TA-P (being honest-working on this)

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero in Training is BB with K

, Q

.
1 fold, MP calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero in Training raises, MP calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) J

, 6

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero in Training checks, CO bets, button calls, SB folds, Hero in Training calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) T

(3 players)
Hero in Training checks, CO bets, button calls, Hero in Training calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 9

(3 players)
Hero in Training checks, CO bets, button calls, Hero in Training raises, CO 3-bets, button calls, Hero in Training caps, CO calls, button calls.

Final Pot: 20.50 BB

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero in Training is CO with J

, 9

. Hero in Training posts a blind of $0.75.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero in Training (poster) checks, 1 fold, SB raises, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, Hero in Training calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 8

, 2

, Q

(6 players)
SB bets, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Hero in Training calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 6

(4 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero in Training folds.

River: (11.25 BB) A

(3 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero in Training is UTG+1 with T

, T

. CO posts a blind of $0.5.
1 fold, Hero in Training raises, 1 fold, MP2 3-bets, 1 fold, CO (poster) calls, 1 fold, SB caps, 1 fold, Hero in Training calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (17 SB) 5

, 2

, 3

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero in Training checks, MP2 bets, CO calls, SB calls, Hero in Training raises, MP2 calls, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (12.50 BB) A

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero in Training checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

River: (12.50 BB) 2

(4 players)
SB checks, Hero in Training bets, MP2 calls, CO folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero in Training is CO with J

, 9

, 2

, Q

(6 players)
SB bets, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, Hero in Training calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) 6

(4 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero in Training folds.

River: (11.25 BB) A

(3 players)
SB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

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|~|ypermegachi

02-04-2005, 05:27 PM

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hand 1:
i bet out on the flop and river.

hand 2:
horrible turn fold. you had odds for your gutshot alone!! AND you have a flush draw!

hand 3:
very ackward hand...bet the turn.

hand 4:
same as hand 2 :P

Jes_Gru

02-04-2005, 05:46 PM

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My thoughts:

Hand 1: I think you played this well

Hand 2: do not fold the turn as you have both a str and flush draw.
fold on the river when those did not hit

Hand 3: Bet the turn, you have been the aggressor this hand, and checking gave those on a flush draw a free card.

Chicago_Kid

02-04-2005, 06:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hypermegachi

Crap...copied that one twice. See, I'm new.

So on #1 you bet out to on the come. I actually lost this one to J6 boat on CO spot.

Yeah, #2 was bad as I figured out later.

But on #3, do you bet to expose strength? These LPP's were sitting on Ax all night.

_____________________________
This was the 4th hand....

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, J

.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, MP3 raises, 3 folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) T

, 5

, 3

(4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, MP2 calls, MP3 raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (12.25 BB) 2

(4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.

River: (16.25 BB) 9

(4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks.

Final Pot: 16.25 BB

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|~|ypermegachi

02-04-2005, 06:43 PM

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for hand 3, if they have Ax good for them. they'll be too afraid to raise anyways because of their kicker. so you don't lose that much, and often with the ace out it's still a value bet.

hand 4:
i bet out every street.

Chicago_Kid

02-04-2005, 06:55 PM

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Thanks, Hyper. I should have bet out. One guy had ATo, one guy had AhQs, and one guy had 47o, gutshot

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jmrogers7

02-04-2005, 07:16 PM

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Hyper's advice is right on.

I see one leak that you need to plug right away. You seem to relinquish the power that you have established in the hand by checking at certain streets. If you have the goods, bet out.

Hand 2: As everyone else has already said, you had odds to draw to the straight as well as picking up the flush draw. Never fold this.

Hand 3: You check-raised the flop and then checked the turn when the A came out. Bet out right there and see where you are. If raised, call down. Here is one of those cases where you relinquished the power in the hand that you established on the flop. Take advantage of it.

Hand 4: Again, you 3-bet pre-flop, you 3-bet the post-flop and then you check/called the turn. You gave away the power in the hand. At the very least if you were going to check on the turn, pop back MP3 with a check-raise on the turn. You have to bet out on the river here as well.

Good luck and keep at it!

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Chicago_Kid

02-04-2005, 09:48 PM

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Thanks, JM.

Probably need to get it through my head not to worry about smooth call traps and keep attacking until someone fires back.

I've been through phases of doing this effectively, but still fall out of it at times. Still learning to maintain...

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gabe

02-04-2005, 10:48 PM

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gabe is an unknown quantity at this point

on hand 4, bet the turn and if he raises thats when i would start to call down

Zinnsoldaten

02-05-2005, 12:43 PM

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Gabe, I really tried - but it was impossible to read your actual post.

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