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Old 04-03-2008, 02:33 PM     Post subject: 3bet and cap? #1 (permalink)  
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done this twice, today alone, with same weak flush. wonder if i have been missing that extra river bet of value...

0.25/0.5 Limit Holdem
7 players
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Stacks:
UTG ($9.50)
UTG+1 ($3.95)
MP ($11.55)
CO ($7.90)
BTN ($8.55)
SB ($8.85)
Hero ($9.80)

Pre-flop: (1.4 SB, 7 players) Hero is BB
UTG calls, 3 folds, BTN calls, SB calls, Hero checks

Flop: (4.0 SB, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, 1 fold, BTN raises, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, BTN folds, SB calls

Turn: (6.0 BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (6.0 BB, 2 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, SB calls

Final Pot: 10.0 BB
Hero shows:
SB shows:

Hero wins 9.6 BB ( won +5.6 BB )
UTG lost 0.5 BB
BTN lost 1.5 BB
SB lost 4.0 BB


for a nit like me, the raising has been an eye-opener. stupid not to, i know. but, now that we are picking up value with the raise, where do we stop with a weaker flush? do we cap if we are 3bet? or do we need to chill at some point?
LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
 
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arborman
Old 04-03-2008, 06:00 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Except against the most maniacal players, I call a 3bet rather than cap. Most players see the 3rd flush card and make a crying call. A 3bet tells me they aren't afraid of the flush, so it's my turn for a crying call.

There are some players where this does not apply, but for the most part it is spew to cap with a weak flush unless you have notes on the guy capping a mid pair on a flush board.
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:00 AM #3 (permalink)  
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This depends on your opponent and how he/she plays. Against some players, you should go nuts, against others you should play more cautiously.
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Chopper
Old 04-04-2008, 01:53 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by dsaxton
This depends on your opponent and how he/she plays. Against some players, you should go nuts, against others you should play more cautiously.
understood. but, i am more referring to the "strength" of a 9 high, two card flush in a multiway pot where we are seeing action against an unknown player.

its hard to get "solid" reads on a lot of players down here because of the multitude of them, and the fact that we dont sit with the same players often. some we do, but most are relatively new...to us (under 50 hands).
LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
 
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jmontis
Old 04-05-2008, 04:38 AM #5 (permalink)  
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We both know it is unlikely for him to have a bigger flush, so what's the problem? he'd bet an ace, 2 pair, maybe a k, a set. You have all of these beat. Easy raise
take your ego out of the equation and judge the situation dispassionately
 
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