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asdpikas

01-28-2009, 04:08 PM Post subject: 300k stats

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Ok, u all know i'm a stat freak...

I've just realized i have over 300k hands on PT3. So here goes:

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink

Most of my micro limit hands are gone, and all the hands on sites not supported by PT3 are not there either, obviously. Please comment.

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elipsesjeff

01-28-2009, 04:23 PM

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Blind play looks good; I think you should stick with 6 max if you plan to continue making a living off of poker. It should eventually help out your FR game too. Also, I think you should be winning more on the button/cutoff if that means anything; probably loosen it up and play it like you would the BB vs SB steal in 6 max.

Your W$WSF is great so I'd try and see more flop where you have initiative to see if you can't win more money in position.

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asdpikas

01-28-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

Also, I think you should be winning more on the button/cutoff if that means anything; probably loosen it up and play it like you would the BB vs SB steal in 6 max.

u mean raise any 2?
Lately I've upped my steals to 50+% in btn and CO, is it profitable to raise even more?

Lance

01-28-2009, 05:38 PM

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That rake is crazy. How much money you have earned from bonuses or rakeback ?

I would like to know your biggest downswings. How many hands it was and BB/100...

Thx...

elipsesjeff

01-28-2009, 08:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by elipsesjeff

Also, I think you should be winning more on the button/cutoff if that means anything; probably loosen it up and play it like you would the BB vs SB steal in 6 max.

u mean raise any 2?
Lately I've upped my steals to 50+% in btn and CO, is it profitable to raise even more?

Well, I think you're probably raising enough hands on the button at 30%, but you could try treating the CO exactly as you would the button and see how it works out. Otherwise, find spots where you're losing money and cut them out. It looks like you play postflop well so you could also attempt to play more pots in position by overlimping.

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asdpikas

01-29-2009, 07:45 AM

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That rake is crazy. How much money you have earned from bonuses or rakeback ?

A lot. This is not quantifiable, since i play other games too, and it would be impossible to evaluate how much comes from LHE and how much comes from other games. Plus, i play different sites (stats are from Party, Everest, FTP and Stars) with different VIP benefits/bonuses/rakeback.
If i had played all my hands at FTP, i would have generated 27% of the total rake...
I must say, playing different sites, before i got my FTP rakeback, helped me bonuswhore, since i would play which ever site had a bonus going on until clear, and then switch to where the next bonus was. Thus, i almost never played without a bonus going on.

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I would like to know your biggest downswings. How many hands it was and BB/100...

Thx...

I guess it was at 2/4 6max where i went down to -$1400 over the first 45k hands... u may do the math regarding BB/100

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01-29-2009, 07:52 AM

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That rake is crazy. How much money you have earned from bonuses or rakeback ?

I would like to know your biggest downswings. How many hands it was and BB/100...

Thx...

u may also want to look at these 2 links:

http://www.pokertableratings.com/overview/asdpikas

http://www.pokertableratings.com/ove...kas?site=bodog

The stats are only for 2/4 and higher, but the yellow line shows the rake generated. You may then count rakeback as 27% of that for FTP and 30% of that for Bodog

and, YES, my bodog performance is SOOOO SICK

sinky

01-29-2009, 01:07 PM

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Can you filter for your premium hands and show how much you are winning for each. TT+, AQ+, AJs+, KQs.

Over the last 20K hands my win % averages 59% and about 0.07 BB per hand. I know I am running bad, just need to know how bad.

asdpikas

01-29-2009, 03:47 PM

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here's my top hands

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink

sinky

01-29-2009, 08:27 PM

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_____You win___I win
AA___83.97%___80.00%
KK___75.51%___68.60%
QQ___71.47%___56.00%
JJ____65.52%___63.79%
TT___63.30%___49.44%
AKs__65.16%___60.61%
AQs__62.56%___66.67%
AJs___56.91%___46.15%
KQs__56.87%___60.53%
AK___62.12% ___54.37%
AQ___59.00%___54.76%

The majority of my last 20K hands are full ring but that would only make a small difference.
I wait patiently for the hot streak that will balance things out.

asdpikas

01-29-2009, 11:59 PM

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20k is still a small sample. Also look at your postflop play. How many times did u fold AA postflop? good folds? bad folds? How aggro do u play? Do u raise/3bet/cap all these hands? in all positions? ever limp/reraise? or not?

too many variables over a small sample. Do your PT stats look similar to mine? if they dont, then comparing results is a moot point.

Chopper

01-30-2009, 01:26 AM

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fnord has often said that your profit in LHE comes exclusively from AA...KK, too, if you are really good. chew on that and puke it up when it sinks in.

in fact, i just looked through my db for this reason alone. i found i havent equaled my "AA profit" just yet. my overall profit is a tad under what AA has won me on its own.

my profitable holdings are:
33+, AXs, ATo+, K9s+, K9o+, QTs+, QJo, J8s+, T8s+, 56s+

that is a much wider range than i anticipated, and it should tell me a couple things. 1- being suited IS incredibly important. 2- the blinds and rake SUCK hard. 3- my post flop game still needs a shitload of work.

LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!

asdpikas

01-30-2009, 08:55 AM

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It seems clear to me that profit comes from many hands...

Chopper

01-30-2009, 02:15 PM

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that is true, but the point fnord makes is that all your profit gets chewed up by the blinds, except for AA.

sure, the others are "profitable" holdings, but they are really only offsetting the rake.

LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!

asdpikas

01-30-2009, 03:28 PM

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sure, the others are "profitable" holdings, but they are really only offsetting the rake.

...that's if u get no rakeback

Chopper

01-30-2009, 03:40 PM

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of course, that would bring KK back into the mix....lol. sadly, i thought you might say/think that right after i posted.

LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!

Lance

01-30-2009, 04:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sinky

here's my top hands

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink

Can you separate 6max and full ring and post entirely 6max ?

asdpikas

01-30-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by sinky

here's my top hands

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink

Can you separate 6max and full ring and post entirely 6max ?

u are making me work... :S

http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink

Chopper

01-30-2009, 05:37 PM

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FALSE ADVERTISING!!!! this is now only 181k stats.

LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.

Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!

01-30-2009, 07:35 PM

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Hell, I won $528.30 in no limit, and $505.20 with pocket aces

I must suck at no limit yo

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01-30-2009, 08:29 PM

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I don't see the evidence that Asd is worse at FR than at 6max. Counting the number of red and green lines doens't count as evidence btw.

My advice is to play at any table i'm not at so a fishy can have the seat.

Stats look good.

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).

DrivingDog

01-30-2009, 08:31 PM

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p.s. the reason his big hands make more is because his AF is high and he doesn't get as much credit when he raises postflop.

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." (George Bush).

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