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Old 05-26-2005, 01:21 AM     Post subject: 30/60 Empire....anyone notice a trend here....AAAGG #1 (permalink)  
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You'd think they might be a little more cautious and passive at 30/60, but they turn up the post-flop heat real quick. My sense is they are up to at least two things (1) they want to see if you can be pushed off a pot easy, and (2) they want to see "where they are" before they get to the Big bets.
They are not so pushy on the turn and river.

I tend to be SLAPPY (semi-loose agressive passive), so the post-flop action didn't bother me that much. I kind of prefered the style of play, but a got a little nervous around a couple of real solid players and quit while I was ahead.

I only played 250 hands, so I'm not sure if all tables are like this. There were some weak bullies and some good players waiting to punish them.

I think I'll keep my butt at 10/20 on weekend evenings from now on, which is the only time I am playing anymore.

One thing that was helpful about the experience, though, when I went back to 10/20 I had tightened up (30/60 will do that - lol), and I was way more agressive on later streets. I took down more pots uncontested on turn and river folds. I think I may have been pessimistic about judging when I was ahead or not, and I stopped painting worse case scenerios and started pressing other players more.

Notice no possible flush draws on any of the boards...

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, Q.
2 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 6, K, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (7 BB) J (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Results in white below: [color:#FFFFFF]
BB has 5s 8h (one pair, eights).
Hero has Ks Qc (one pair, kings).
Outcome: Hero wins 9 BB. [/color]


I should have 3 bet the flop here......bad mistake

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, T.
2 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 4, T, 2 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 5 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) 7 (2 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Results in white below: [color:#FFFFFF]
Hero has Qs Th (one pair, tens).
SB has 6h 2h (one pair, twos).
Outcome: Hero wins 9 BB. [/color]


Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7, J.
UTG raises, MP calls, 1 fold, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 6, 2, J (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, MP folds, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (9 BB) Q (2 players)
Hero bets, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Results in white below: [color:#FFFFFF]
Hero has 7d Jh (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins 10 BB. [/color]

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, Q.
Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) Q, 2, J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB folds.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

Results in white below: [color:#FFFFFF]
No showdown. Hero wins 6.25 BB. [/color]

And when in rome...........this was scary, I can only say I sensed a big ace and saw no flush poss on the flop,...and I had not been caught raising without the goods.


Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, J.
2 folds, Button raises, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 2, T, 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets, Button folds.

Final Pot: 7 BB

Results in white below: [color:#FFFFFF]
No showdown. Hero wins 7 BB. [/color]
Gone golfing ..see ya in the Fall of 2006
PS. What did the snail on the turtle's back say?
Wheeeeeeeee........
 
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Old 05-26-2005, 01:40 AM #2 (permalink)  
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nice play on that last hand. most of the time i call that flop raise and fold the turn unimproved.
 
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Old 05-26-2005, 03:16 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Party 30/60 is by all accounts the shark pit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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Old 05-29-2005, 02:50 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I've watched party 30 / 60 from time to time and am of the opinion that at certain peak times it is mainly comprised of stockbrokers that have put too much Dr Zhivago up their noses and are flipping out with cash they don't care about. I'm sure there are some real sharks but the majority just seemed to be maniacs with up to 30 more maniacs queuing at any one time to get into the game.
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Old 05-29-2005, 04:27 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Why not go for the turn C/R on hand 4?
If I had a hammer
I'd drop in the morning
I'd drop in the evening..
 
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Old 05-29-2005, 06:29 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Why not go for the turn C/R on hand 4?
Because an aware player may fold to a turn raise. By 3-betting he's more likely to get the other guy to play back at him, Stop'n'Go or call down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
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