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Romulus141
Old 01-28-2006, 03:43 PM     Post subject: 3 Hands to take a look at #1 (permalink)  
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Hand #1:

UTG+1 is 73/0/0.79

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K, A.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (5.40 SB) 5, 6, 8 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) A (2 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, UTG+1 calls.

River: (8.70 BB) 9 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 10.70 BB

Hand #2:

CO is 73/0/0.79

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, 5.
1 fold, MP1 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (3.40 SB) 2, 4, 3 (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) Q (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 folds, CO calls.

River: (5.20 BB) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 8.20 BB

Hand #3:

Early hand at a table, so no real reads.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, K.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) A, T, 8 (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Button calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.70 BB) Q (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Button folds, UTG+1 raises, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (20.70 BB) 8 (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, Hero caps, CO calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 30.70 BB
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Old 01-28-2006, 04:48 PM #2 (permalink)  
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hand 1
I like it.

Hand 2
Give up on the river.

hand 3
UTG+1 check raised the turn which screams, I have a set. Who knows what CO has, but he seemed to like that 8 of spades. I think you got beat by a boat or 2. Whatever it was...I just call CO's 3 bet on the river. Looks like you lost this hand, but really you did the right thing and there's not much else you could have done. At most we're talking 1 BB differences.
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Old 01-28-2006, 07:48 PM #3 (permalink)  
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#1 Good
#2 Good
#3 Just call the river.
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Old 01-28-2006, 09:18 PM #4 (permalink)  
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#3 Just call the river.
That was a joke right? We do have the nuts.
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Old 01-28-2006, 10:02 PM #5 (permalink)  
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#3 Just call the river.
That was a joke right? We do have the nuts.
Nut flush not nut Hand

1,2 Good
3, Just call the 3-bet without any reads.
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Old 01-28-2006, 10:05 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Ack, I didnt see the paired board. I am a tard.
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Old 01-28-2006, 11:57 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Definite tard.

I'm going to find you an avatar you'll actually USE.
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Old 01-29-2006, 08:59 PM #8 (permalink)  
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The play on hands 1 and 3 are perfectly reasonable, although capping the river on hand 3 may be a mistake. Problem I have is with hand 2. What are you doing betting the turn and river here? At higher stakes I might understand, but at .25/.50, if you don't get them to fold, you are going to lose, and at .25/.50, you can't think you are going to get them to fold.
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Old 01-29-2006, 11:26 PM #9 (permalink)  
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The play on hands 1 and 3 are perfectly reasonable, although capping the river on hand 3 may be a mistake. Problem I have is with hand 2. What are you doing betting the turn and river here? At higher stakes I might understand, but at .25/.50, if you don't get them to fold, you are going to lose, and at .25/.50, you can't think you are going to get them to fold.
I have an OESD, and I'm pumping the pot for those times when I do hit. Granted, the flush possibility means 2 of my outs aren't sure. The river bet was probably not a good idea. Someone correct me if that logic doesn't work in this case.
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Old 01-30-2006, 12:16 AM #10 (permalink)  
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The river bet was probably not a good idea. Someone correct me if that logic doesn't work in this case.
If you are not planning to bet the river, check the turn and hope for a free card.
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Old 01-30-2006, 03:58 AM #11 (permalink)  
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What's your plan in hand 1 if you didn't get and A or K on the turn?
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Old 01-30-2006, 05:23 AM #12 (permalink)  
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What's your plan in hand 1 if you didn't get and A or K on the turn?
Fold to a bet on the turn. My opponent is very loose and passive, and the board is straight coordinated, so spiking top pair may not win, especially since he raised me on the flop. Therefore I can only count my overcards as being worth 3 outs total. The pot isn't big enough to warrant chasing top pair to the river.

I would probably take a free river card if I was checked to. After his display on the flop, the last thing I want to do is bet the turn and get check-raised.
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Old 01-30-2006, 05:35 PM #13 (permalink)  
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I have an OESD, and I'm pumping the pot for those times when I do hit. Granted, the flush possibility means 2 of my outs aren't sure. The river bet was probably not a good idea. Someone correct me if that logic doesn't work in this case.
Even supposing your OESD outs aren't tainted, you don't have enough equity to be pumping the pot on the turn with only two opponents. As Xanadu pointed out, at a higher stakes game betting might give you enough additional fold equity to tip the balance to a bet, but at 25c/50c against two opponents you probably won't have enough fold equity to make a bet worthwhile.

I just check/call the turn and fold the river if I don't hit.
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