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10-21-2005, 12:19 AM
Post subject: 3 hands
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Flush
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: california
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trying to learn from all you guys not to be results oriented. I would have lost more here but still want to know what the correct play was.
b&M 4-8
Hand 1: hero is 10c-10s on the button.
UTG calls, MP1 calls, Mp2 calls, CO calls, Hero raises, Sb calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.
Flop: Kc-Qc-Jc
CO bets, Hero raises, CO calls (everyone else folds)
Turn: Kc-Qc-Jc-5s
CO checks, Hero checks
River: Kc-Qc-Jc-5s-As
CO bets, Hero raises, CO calls.
CO shows 2c-8c for flopped flush.
Should I bet the turn as a value bet. I mean i have 15 outs but wasnt sure if its a value bet HU. i should definitely bet if 3 people in right ?
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Hand 2: Kill pot 8-16
Hero is 10-10 on the button. UTg is loose aggressive
Preflop: UTG raises, MP2 (kill button) calls, Hero calls, SB calls.
Flop: 8-4-3
UTG bets, MP2 raises, Hero 3 bets, SB calls, UTG calls, MP2 caps, Hero calls, SB calls, UTG calls.
Turn: 8-4-2-7
SB bets, UTG folds, MP2 calls, Hero folds.
SB has the straight, MP2 had 4-8 and filled up on the river.
was my 3 bet correct on the flop ? i have only overpair but i dont know what MP2 had. uTG showed QQ on his fold.
Should I have 3 bet before the flop ?? I am playing 10-10 for only set value these days. I raise JJ though
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Hand 3: (kill pot 8-16)
Hero is 8c-8d UTG
Preflop: Hero calls, MP3 calls, button calls, SB calls, bb calls.
flop: 3-6-7 2 clubs on board.
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls
Turn: 2-6-7-5 (flush completed)
BB bets, Hero calls.
River: 2-6-7-5-4
BB bets, Hero calls
BB shows Q high flush.
after flop raise, bb again bets on turn. he must have the flush. should i fold the turn ??
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Fnord
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Hand 1: Interesting flop problem. No way you can fold there, hence I think raising is ok if not your best play. Everything else is fine.
Hand 2: Easy 3-bet pre-flop. Good turn fold.
Hand 3: Well played.
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sinky
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Flush
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hand 1 - You mention that you have 15 outs. Be careful not to overcount as most of your outs are only partial outs.
- Ac and 9c give you the nuts.
- 7 other clubs, give you a flush but can be beaten by Ac.
- 3 remaining Aces give you straight, but can be beaten by flush or could be split pot.
- 3 remaining nines give you a straight, but can be beaten by flush or could be split pot.
- 2 remaining Tens, puts 4 to a straight on the board.
So I would give you ~ 10 outs.
Don't think this is a good spot to value bet the turn
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Straight
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Hand 1: Interesting flop problem. No way you can fold there, hence I think raising is ok if not your best play. Everything else is fine.
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Is the preflop raise standard? I haven't played full ring in a while but after 4 limpers, I might prefer to get in cheap and outplay my opponents in a small(er) pot postflop, especially if the flop looks good for me. Also, I can't say I hate the river raise, but against good players, only a T would call you here and a flush would certainly 3bet (esp when you have checked the turn, which clearly indicates you dont hold a higher flush or else you would have bet the turn).
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Fnord
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