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NixonFanClub

09-20-2007, 09:49 PM Post subject: 3/6 6max LH: Flopping nuts 3-way versus very aggro players

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6 max, table had been running four handed for a few minutes. Both UTG and BB have been presumed to be aggressive, as they were both involved in two pots earlier that were capped on the flop and 3 bet on the turn.

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)

Preflop: Hero is Button with

.
UTG calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.33 SB)

(3 players)
BB bets, UTG raises, Hero calls, BB 3-bets, UTG caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (9.16 BB)

(3 players)
BB bets, UTG raises, Hero ...?

... should three-bet the turn himself, hoping to get it at least capped headsup if not capped with both of them,

or

... should just smooth call the turn to make sure that BB stays in the pot, with the intention to cap the betting if one of them 3-bets the turn.

I honestly have no idea what I'm up against except A> they like their hands, B> none of them have the nuts, and C> one of them may have a set or a straight with a spade draw.

Thoughts?

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DrivingDog

09-20-2007, 09:56 PM

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Lol. call and hope you get an overcall on the turn (and you will from Ts or 9s). Obviously you're afraid of pretty much NOTHING on the river except a paired board so raise then...

Again helps to know how dumb/aggro your opponents are but with no reads i'm going for an overcall on the turn here and raising an unpaired river ...

I''m sure others will tell you to raise the turn...

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NixonFanClub

09-20-2007, 10:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DrivingDog

Well I have some reads, at the top of the post I mention that the players were butting heads pretty severely in two recent pots. So, my "read" on them is that they are very aggressive. I don't "know" if they are. Maybe they are normally churchmice that are merely tilting. However, the best read I can have on them is that they are very aggressive, they seem to like to butt heads, and I have successfully portrayed my hand thus far as me having only the dry ace of spades.

Jibalob

09-20-2007, 11:32 PM

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Arrgghh, I hate this kind of situation, if you dont get at least another 5BBs in by showdown you feel like you could have got more if you had played it "the other way"

I'm probably calling here for several reasons:

1) a 3bet from Hero on the turn is usually enough to scare away even the "creme de la creme" of maniacs in BB.
2) If a 3-bet did put BB off the hand and UTG calls, you would have got just as many extra bets in on the turn by calling (assuming BB doesnt fold for 1BB here which I think is unlikely)
3) If you call BB may well 3-bet if he is a total aggro-donk and who knows, UTG might even cap.
4) The pot will be so big by the turn that nobody is folding unless faced with a 2BB call so I think you can guarantee yourself an extra 2BBs on the river by keeping the pot 3-handed (assuming the board doesnt make a full house or quads for either OPP)

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KoRnholio

09-20-2007, 11:39 PM

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Just call. Your play is very consistent with the naked As, so they might even cap the turn if you keep playing it passive. You will probably lose your market on the river if a 4th spade hits, but it's worth it if there's a decent chance they will put another bet or two in on the turn.

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NixonFanClub

09-22-2007, 04:59 AM

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RESULTS in white below:

I called, BB called. The river was a brick, BB checked, UTG bet, I raised, BB cold-called(!) and UTG called. BB turns over bottom straight with the Ten of spades, UTG turns over pocket jacks.

dsaxton

09-22-2007, 05:19 AM

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Um, jam every street. Don't worry about people folding, worry about missing bets.

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