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Old 09-29-2010, 12:21 AM     Post subject: 2PLO - sorry for endless hands but im so lost! #1 (permalink)  
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 CO is playing pretty loose and taking weak stabs whenever checked to. I felt like I needed to raise to protect my hand here given how nasty the board is and I don't think he ever bets a set or straight this weak. I think I just take it down right here often enough...

Is that logic incorrect? Should I be lead/folding here? If I c/r and get repopped I basically have to fold but if I c/c I'm getting owned on like any turn so...I dunno im so unsure of what to do.

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BB ($3.06)
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Preflop: Hero is SB with 8, Q, 8, 6
UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, CO calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.01, BB bets $0.06, UTG calls $0.04, CO calls $0.04, Hero calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.24) 8, 10, 9 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, CO bets $0.14, Hero raises to $0.65...
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Old 09-29-2010, 01:33 AM #2 (permalink)  
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you want nitty...i'd fold preflop most of the time, c/f flop.
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Old 09-29-2010, 01:38 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 when you suggest folding pre do you mean to the raise or would you not complete here in the sb?
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I used to fold like 95% in the SB and was finally convinced that was too nitty. I think this type of hand will have you in spots where you flop well and are still dominated/freerolled by stuff like QJT9/JT98 or As9s87.

This kind of flop is terrible because there is already a straight and obviously there are draws to higher straights, there's a flush draw and you could improve to 8s full of 9s or something and be drawing dead -- the board pairing 9 or T is pretty scary and will be an action-killer unless you are beat.
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 my thoughts on completing were if I flop a set my hand is double suited so that gives me extra opportunity to flop backdoor draws or flush draw + set which will add additional equity to my hand, plus I get a good price to see a flop being in the SB.

If the flop comes down in such a way where I only flop a flush draw I wouldn't be putting any bets in. I had this plan going into the hand but unfortunately this has to be the absolute worst board for me to flop bottom set on and I wasn't prepared for it lol.
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One thing I'd recommend is study hands where people stack off. Look at hands where you have like the nuts + redraw and are still getting crazy action -- it'll generally be people are playing hands like this, they flop a set + draw and you have them annihilated.

board: Td9s8d
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Qs8s8c6c 18.23%
QdJdTs9c 81.77%

board: Td9s8d
Qs8s8c6c 37.68%
Ad9dTcJc 62.32%
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 pre is fine, I would fold HU OOP vs a good raiser but multi way it should be played.

I'd call one bet then give up for there, maybe bet a turn diamond on the river if he checks it. c/c another bet if board pairs
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