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29.25 pot in a 3 way .50/1.00 limit pot.
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lonnie
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10-03-2004, 10:02 PM
Post subject: 29.25 pot in a 3 way .50/1.00 limit pot.
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Full House
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CARDSON
This is the biggest pot I have won yet at .50/1.00 limit. One guy flopped a full, then I turned the bigger full. As I was turning the bigger full, player C was turning a K high flush. We capped the turn and river. FUN!!!
Do any of you have a bigger .50/1.00 pot? I'd like to see it. This one was 29.25 BB. I won 19.75 BB on the hand.
***** Hand History for Game 1017372669 *****
0.50/1 TEXASHTGAMETABLE (LIMIT) - SUN OCT 03 16:15:56 EDT 2004
Table Table 13088 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: badabomser ( $24.25)
Seat 2: TTAAZ ( $26.50)
Seat 3: skvader ( $5.75)
Seat 4: BigDuke007 ( $35.25)
Seat 5: pointer100 ( $7.62)
Seat 6: cold_cash_72 ( $45)
Seat 7: dainbread ( $24.25)
Seat 8: dan42518 ( $26.50)
Seat 9: Casey240Z ( $37.50)
Seat 10: lhoney2 ( $17.75)
pointer100 posts small blind (0.25)
dainbread posts big blind (0.50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to lhoney2 [ Td, Tc ]
dan42518 calls (0.50)
Casey240Z folds.
lhoney2 calls (0.50)
badabomser calls (0.50)
TTAAZ calls (0.50)
skvader folds.
BigDuke007 calls (0.50)
pointer100 folds.
dainbread checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6h, 4h, 6d ]
dainbread checks.
dan42518 checks.
lhoney2 bets (0.50)
badabomser folds.
TTAAZ folds.
BigDuke007 raises (1) to 1
dainbread calls (1)
dan42518 folds.
lhoney2 calls (0.50)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Th ]
dainbread bets (1)
lhoney2 raises (2) to 2
BigDuke007 raises (3) to 3
dainbread raises (3) to 4
lhoney2 calls (2)
BigDuke007 calls (1)
** Dealing River ** : [ 5c ]
dainbread bets (1)
lhoney2 raises (2) to 2
BigDuke007 raises (3) to 3
dainbread raises (3) to 4
lhoney2 calls (2)
BigDuke007 calls (1)
** Summary **
Main Pot: $29.25 | Rake: $1
Board: [ 6h 4h 6d Th 5c ]
badabomser balance $23.75, lost $0.50 (folded)
TTAAZ balance $26, lost $0.50 (folded)
skvader balance $5.75, didn't bet (folded)
BigDuke007 balance $25.75, lost $9.50 [ 8h Kh ] [ a flush, king high -- Kh,Th,8h,6h,4h ]
pointer100 balance $7.37, lost $0.25 (folded)
cold_cash_72 balance $45, sits out
dainbread balance $14.75, lost $9.50 [ 6s 4s ] [ a full house, Sixes full of fours -- 6s,6h,6d,4s,4h ]
dan42518 balance $26, lost $0.50 (folded)
Casey240Z balance $37.50, didn't bet (folded)
lhoney2 balance $37.50, bet $9.50, collected $29.25, net +$19.75 [ Td Tc ] [ a full house, Tens full of sixes -- Td,Tc,Th,6h,6d ]
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Fnord
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30BB is a monster. I've heard of up to 40BB. Biggest I've won was at around 29BB.
As for the hand:
Raise pre-flop. 3-bet the flop.
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lonnie
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3 bet the flop? Why would I do that? I was checking for the 6, thought I found it. Also two hearts on the flop. I don't like the 3 bet there. If I don't catch the 10 on the turn I probably throw the hand away.
Why would I raise preflop? Overcards are almost sure to fall. I only like this hand if I make a set usually, or if no overcards fall. Once the board was paired and two suited, my hand was not looking good.
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10-03-2004, 10:44 PM
Post subject: Re: 29.25 pot in a 3 way .50/1.00 limit pot.
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by lhoney2
Do any of you have a bigger .50/1.00 pot? I'd like to see it. This one was 29.25 BB. I won 19.75 BB on the hand.
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http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...pic.php?t=3083
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mike4066
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Ask and Ye Shall Receive
Here is the BIGGEST I've ever heard of and been a part of. So close to 40BB's. B
Lucky for me I'm the hero in this tale!
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q , K .
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO raises, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.
Flop: (14 SB) 9 , K , 3 (7 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 raises, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 caps, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.
Turn: (15.50 BB) T (4 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, MP2 folds, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, MP1 caps, CO calls, Hero calls.
River: (27.50 BB) A (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 raises, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, MP1 caps, CO calls, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 39.50 BB
Results in white below:
Hero has Qs Ks (flush, ace high).
MP1 has 7s Js (flush, ace high).
CO has Qh 6c (high card, ace).
Outcome: Hero wins 39.50 BB.
After reading the results, I followed the cutoff to 5 different tables that night.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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That CO is hilarious. I love people sometimes.
-'rilla
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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Fnord
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W E A K
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Originally Posted by lhoney2
Why would I raise preflop? Overcards are almost sure to fall. I only like this hand if I make a set usually, or if no overcards fall. Once the board was paired and two suited, my hand was not looking good.
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BOOOOOOOOO!
A raise does lots of things for you:
o You might isolate the limper + BB. Your hand gains A LOT of equity with position and 2 or 3 way.
o You build a pot, so if you hit your set players will call down with hands nearly drawing dead to you.
o With a larger pot, your reverse implied odds are less of a problem if you flop an overpair in a multi-pot.
o It broadens the range of hands thinking players (or PokerTracker users) put you on when you do raise.
That being said, it's close.
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Originally Posted by lhoney2
3 bet the flop? Why would I do that? I was checking for the 6, thought I found it. Also two hearts on the flop. I don't like the 3 bet there. If I don't catch the 10 on the turn I probably throw the hand away.
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HIIIIISSSSSSSSSS!
Lots of hands you're ahead are raised here by an aggressive or out-of-line opponent, including the flush. Also, a popular line for trips here is to wait for a non-flush card to hit on the turn, then (check)raise. That kind of thinking will cost you money when you move up. God knows what the cold caller has without a read. You have a good hand here. It's not likely to get pretty on the turn, so 3-bet and see what happens.
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Fnord
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Very well played Mike. Fearless.
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fishstick
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Full House
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Originally Posted by Fnord
BOOOOOOOOO!
A raise does lots of things for you:
o You might isolate the limper + BB. Your hand gains A LOT of equity with position and 2 or 3 way.
o You build a pot, so if you hit your set players will call down with hands nearly drawing dead to you.
o With a larger pot, your reverse implied odds are less of a problem if you flop an overpair in a multi-pot.
o It broadens the range of hands thinking players (or PokerTracker users) put you on when you do raise.
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and my personal favorite...
a raise gives you information:
- did i get reraised, hmm, probably AA - JJ or AK. with no reraise, it's probably safe to assume no big made pairs, so, you can play your TT on the low board pretty hard, regardless of whether you hit your set.
also (as fnord said), if you raise preflop, you're less worried about someone holding a six.
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lonnie
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Full House
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OK, so I'm a chicken.
When I made the bet on the flop, I was going for information - I wanted to see if my T's were any good. I found out that I probably didn't have the best hand on the table, based on the raise and the call by the player that flopped the boat.
I was WAY behind on the flop, and was ready to throw the hand away after the turn, especially if the third heart fell.
I like getting my money in the pot when I feel like I'm ahead. I didn't feel like I was ahead on the flop. That simple.
It is likely that the plays you are talking about are beyond me at this point, or it may be a difference in style. According to Pokertracker, I am tight-passive. My preflop raise is at 2.34%. I feel like my post flop play is much stronger than my preflop play for sure.
Thanks for the input guys.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by lhoney2
It is likely that the plays you are talking about are beyond me at this point, or it may be a difference in style. According to Pokertracker, I am tight-passive. My preflop raise is at 2.34%.
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There are several problems with this approach
o You're failing to push pre-flop edges. In limit a missed edge can often can not be made up for on a later street.
o Calling down fishy raises with TPish hands has less value. You're not getting as good of pot odds to suck back out on a scrub 2 pair.
o Worse pot odds on (semi-)bluffs.
o You're likely bringing in big offsuit broadway hands in on a limp. In a multi-pot, they lose a lot of value and further gain value if you can buy out the button.
o Pre-flop aggression can get you free cards post-flop.
o By not establishing aggression early, you won't win more than your fair share without showdown. However, if they're not folding anyway, this is moot.
o Forcing the blinds to pay to play is a win/win for you when your hand wins more than its fair share.
o An alert player will muck AQ/JJ/TT/99/AKo??? to your raises
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Originally Posted by lhoney2
I feel like my post flop play is much stronger than my preflop play for sure.
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Limp, flop big and get called down only goes so far.
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Originally Posted by lhoney2
When I made the bet on the flop, I was going for information - I wanted to see if my T's were any good. I found out that I probably didn't have the best hand on the table, based on the raise and the call by the player that flopped the boat.
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No, bet because you probably have the best hand. A passive player check/cc2 in that spot is more likely to be a strong draw.
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Originally Posted by lhoney2
Thanks for the input guys.
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