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Old 05-25-2007, 02:52 AM     Post subject: 25PLO What to do on every street? #1 (permalink)  
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 I minraise PF cuz I like to build these multiway pots especially when these guys are a little deeper. Usually this game is full of $10 stacks and me gamboooling with them. I think my flop call looks like a monster(which is not what I have) so Im thinking I get checked to on the turn a lot. When he pots the turn I know Im getting some decent odds to try and fill up. Lucky river I know but I think the turn call is correct.

Hand #42331833-16235 at Warren (Pot Limit Omaha)
Started at 24/May/07 22:36:50

Ordug is at seat 0 with $14.20.
Borat4Prez is at seat 1 with $34.45.
lmtvegas is at seat 2 with $32.24.
Bsk183 is at seat 3 with $26.49.
EpMdTk is at seat 4 with $10.
knightridge is at seat 5 with $20.08.
The button is at seat 2.

Bsk183 posts the small blind of $.10.
EpMdTk posts the big blind of $.25.

Ordug: -- -- -- --
Borat4Prez: Th Js Qh 9s
lmtvegas: -- -- -- --
Bsk183: -- -- -- --
EpMdTk: -- -- -- --
knightridge: -- -- -- --

Pre-flop:

knightridge calls. Ordug folds. Borat4Prez raises
to $.50. lmtvegas calls. Bsk183 folds. EpMdTk
calls. knightridge calls.

Flop (board: 7h Ts Tc):

EpMdTk checks. knightridge bets $2.10. Borat4Prez
calls. lmtvegas folds. EpMdTk folds.

Turn (board: 7h Ts Tc 2s):

knightridge bets $6.30. Borat4Prez calls.

River (board: 7h Ts Tc 2s Jd):

knightridge goes all-in for $11.18. Borat4Prez calls.
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Old 05-25-2007, 03:28 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Looks good.
Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
 
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:19 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 Yea, at first I thought the turn call was marginal as he either has 77xx or ATxx a large portion of the time. But I realize Im calling $6.30 to win ~$24. So getting nearly 4:1 it's an easy turn call as I'm pretty sure Im folding a bricked river.
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Old 05-25-2007, 05:38 PM #4 (permalink)  
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your outs are not necessarily live (he can have 99/JJ/QQ as well as splits)...
but you are also sometimes ahead (he could have TX + AXs)., and sometimes a spade puts you ahead of AT (when he doesn't have T+AXs).

I would say it's a pretty thin, but OK call.
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 The backdoor flush is helpful here because the cards are nice and low, thus making it less likely that villain is full already.
Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
 
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Turn depends on how often this guy bluffs and if I feel like making a magininal to -EVish call to discourage bluffs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y
 
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Turn depends on how often this guy bluffs and if I feel like making a magininal to -EVish call to discourage bluffs.
Where is the -EV in the turn call? Are you suggesting I could fold this flop?

I could have as many as 10 outs vs 77xx and Im getting implied odds of nearly 4:1 on the turn call.

If villian is not already full I doubt he's betting the turn, therefore when he bets the turn he has to have T2xx T7xx or 77xx.
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Are you suggesting I could fold this flop?
No fucking way I fold a possible best hand with 9 outs to the over-full on this flop!
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:25 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Are you suggesting I could fold this flop?
No fucking way I fold a possible best hand with 9 outs to the over-full on this flop!
OK, just wondering why you're saying the calls are marginal or -EV then.
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:27 PM #10 (permalink)  
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OK, just wondering why you're saying the calls are marginal or -EV then.
I think calling pot on the turn is marginal.
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:35 PM #11 (permalink)  
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OK, just wondering why you're saying the calls are marginal or -EV then.
I think calling pot on the turn is marginal.
I was behind on the turn, but with 9 outs it's a +EV call.

He has T422 so I think I played it correctly knowing what he had. This assumes I would have folded a bricked river.
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OK, just wondering why you're saying the calls are marginal or -EV then.
I think calling pot on the turn is marginal.
I was behind on the turn, but with 9 outs it's a +EV call.

He has T422 so I think I played it correctly knowing what he had. This assumes I would have folded a bricked river.
Yeah when he bets pot on the turn it's very often T7xx/T2xx or perhaps bigger trips like TTAx. If the river bricks and he bets again, easy fold since you only beat a pure (3-barrell) bluff.
Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
 
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