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Old 04-24-2010, 11:29 PM     Post subject: 25PLO - some line checks #1 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1
Villain is not very good. I don't really expect to get called/raised often by anyone, unless they have A3, 36. I have ~35% equity vs AAxx or A7xx.

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BB: $28.30
UTG: $17.30
Hero (MP): $21.40
CO: $42.60
BTN: $41.55
SB: $10.90

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with 9 6 7 T
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.25) 4 2 7 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB folds, UTG calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.25) 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $6.75

Hand 2
villain has 100k hands @ 25PLO with 2bb/100 winrate, all I know. Is turn lead good? b/f river good?

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CO: $29.90
BTN: $33.10
Hero (SB): $24.20
BB: $49.95
UTG: $43.15

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with Q J 8 5
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1.00) 8 4 8 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.75, UTG folds, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.75

Turn: ($2.50) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $2.40, BB calls $2.40

River: ($7.30) A (2 players)
Hero bets $4, BB raises to $15.75, Hero folds
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Old 04-25-2010, 12:02 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 hand 1 I like

hand 2 I would either c/c or call now, I think he'll bet a lot of 8xxx and might raise any full here, almost surely raises Q8 or A8
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Old 04-25-2010, 07:22 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 I'm not sure a typical 25PLO player would bet a naked 8 or raise Q8, but I have no idea about the winning players.

Do you call even if he pots river? I feel like one of my leaks is calling in spots where I'm rarely good.

Hand 3

I don't think this is a great hand for 3betting OOP, but not horrible either. Agree/disagree? Do you like 3betting more vs multiple villains to squeeze some out, as opposed to being HU OOP?

What's the plan on the flop? I think he was moderately aggressive, but no real post flop reads. I'd guess b/f > c/c > c/f.

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Hero (SB): $44.15
BB: $30.95
CO: $28.95
BTN: $36.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 9 K J 8
CO raises to $0.85, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.75, 1 fold, CO calls $1.90

Flop: ($5.75) A 6 4 (2 players)
Hero ...
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Old 04-26-2010, 02:15 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 why do you think b/f>c/c>c/f?

edit: and why not include c/r
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Old 04-26-2010, 11:00 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 way ahead, way behind scenario so I don't have to worry about protecting my equity, or getting outdrawn.

b/f, I will only get raised when I'm crushed, may get floated by big A (thinking I don't have AAxx, and don't have the obvious nut flush), Kdxxx maybe, get called by all flushes, although there are ~16k counts of bigger flushes, and ~4k counts of smaller flushes (if I did it right): bigger, smaller

hmm, my hand is barely better than AAxx, thus at the bottom of my range

c/c, I like this option a lot more now. I'm getting owned by flushes so my hand is mostly a bluff catcher. If he checks behind twice I can bet river, I can check call one bet and give up to a double barrel. Can not imagine many 25PLO villains would try to barrel me off of AAxx

c/f, too weak

c/r, didn't even consider this, gotta go but will think about it.
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Old 04-27-2010, 01:49 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 hand 1 - i consider checking behind cos i see you having way less fold equity than you think you do. Also, you forgot about 68?
hand 2 - hand 2 looks good to me.
hand 3 - based on what i've seen of plo so far and 3-betting in position is pretty much never terrible, oop and you're making life difficult for yourself without some sort of reads. Re the question of 3-betting vs more or less villains - depends on how dead the money is and how sticky (see spenda's recent article your hand is. Checking is cool cos you can check so much of your range here, for so many reasons - this includes some of your nut hands meaning you're gonna see a free turn a lot of the time! c-c > c-r > b-f >c-f imo
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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