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swiggidy
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06-02-2007, 10:19 PM
Post subject: 25PLO - some hands
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Hand 1: Blind battle, no reads
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($18.05)
MP ($51.95)
Button ($33.40)
Hero ($24.75)
BB ($60.40)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A , 3 , K , K .
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, BB raises to $2.25, Hero calls $1.50.
Flop: ($4.50) 9 , 5 , 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, BB raises to $13.3, Hero raises to $22.5
Hand 2: same villain, like 2 hands later
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP ($18.50)
CO ($15)
Button ($33.15)
SB ($25.45)
Hero ($25)
UTG ($82.65)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 , A , T , 7 . CO posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO (poster) checks, 2 folds, Hero checks.
Flop: ($0.85) J , 9 , 8 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.75, UTG calls $0.75, CO folds.
Turn: ($2.35) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $2, Hero calls $2.
River: ($6.35) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $3, Hero calls $3.
Hand 3: What's our plan here?
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Button ($22.10)
SB ($19.90)
BB ($24.25)
UTG ($22.50)
Hero ($23.75)
CO ($15.95)
Preflop: Hero is MP with A , T , 2 , A .
UTG raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50.
Flop: ($2.35) A , 9 , 5 (3 players)
BB bets $0.75, UTG calls $0.75, Hero ??
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KoRnholio
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1. bet-fold with no reads
2. Looks fine, at these stakes most people will make small bets with many types o hands, but will bet full pot when they have a boat.
3. Fastplay it, especially with UTG still in the pot. There are too many possible straight draws out there (any non-pairing card below a 9 makes a straight possible).
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In hand 1 I go for a c/r which I rarely ever do and I call a push.
Hand 2, bet/fold the turn
Hand 3 pot-sized raise will do it
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Originally Posted by KoRnholio
1. bet-fold with no reads
2. Looks fine, at these stakes most people will make small bets with many types o hands, but will bet full pot when they have a boat.
3. Fastplay it, especially with UTG still in the pot. There are too many possible straight draws out there (any non-pairing card below a 9 makes a straight possible).
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i agree with this lot
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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swiggidy
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Hand 1: I have 45% equity vs AAxx. There is $20 in the pot after he raises and I have $20 left.
Does villain have AAxx here 99% of the time?
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Originally Posted by swiggidy
Hand 1: I have 45% equity vs AAxx. There is $20 in the pot after he raises and I have $20 left.
Does villain have AAxx here 99% of the time?
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If you have a read that the villain is donkish/stacks off with AAxx a lot, then yes. Without that read, he often has a 5/99 and you are drawing fairly slim. Although at 25PLO, unknowns are much more likely to stack off with a bare AA on that board. In the games I am in, you are usually in quite bad shape if you get all in in spots like that.
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swiggidy
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I asked that question bad, but I think you answered it.
If I think villain has AAxx here 99% of the time is staking off on the flop good?
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Originally Posted by swiggidy
I asked that question bad, but I think you answered it.
If I think villain has AAxx here 99% of the time is staking off on the flop good?
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Like you said, we're just taking slightly the worst of it when we get all in against a bare AA here. With a little bit of dead money in the pot preflop, it turns out to be about an even gamble. The problem arises in that small-medium amount of the time when he has us in bad shape with something like AA5x or 5678.
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Some days it feels like I've been standing forever, waiting for the bank teller to return so I can cash in all these Sklansky Bucks.
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Hand 1: We're getting it all in with a flush draw on a paired board without reads. Why?
Hand 2 looks good.
Hand 3: Obv we want it all in. I guess that means we'd like to bet around $12 on the river. So £3.50 on the flop and $7.50 on the turn. Obv these chunks can be gotten in earlier if you get raised. We play as if someone has hit middle or bottom set (or has weird something like AK and wants to play). (won't get paid off by wnything lse)
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swiggidy
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Originally Posted by gingerwizard
Hand 1: We're getting it all in with a flush draw on a paired board without reads. Why?
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Because I don't think people at Stars 25PL 3bet 99xx or 5678 type hands. Thus, at worst (for me) I think he has AAxx.
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I think blind battles are different anywhere you choose to play. He 3-bets a fair amount here because you could be stealing and he'll have position.
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Originally Posted by swiggidy
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Originally Posted by gingerwizard
Hand 1: We're getting it all in with a flush draw on a paired board without reads. Why?
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Because I don't think people at Stars 25PL 3bet 99xx or 5678 type hands. Thus, at worst (for me) I think he has AAxx.
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He has 2 other cards. He could easily have a 5 or a 9 or even 99 or 95. Of these, the most likely is a 5.
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