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25PLO - more just checking hand
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swiggidy
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06-05-2007, 02:50 AM
Post subject: 25PLO - more just checking hand
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Hand 1: I know this is pretty trashy pre, but I'm on the button
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP ($51.25)
CO ($32.35)
Hero ($26.15)
SB ($20.35)
BB ($27.90)
UTG ($27.45)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , 8 , 4 , Q .
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($1) A , 9 , Q (4 players)
SB bets $0.5, BB calls $0.50, UTG folds, Hero raises to $2.95, SB calls $2.45, BB folds.
Turn: ($7.40) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5.
River: ($17.40) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $12.15 (All-In), Hero calls $12.15.
Hand 2: Bleh, no real read, seems decent. I hate this line. With no re-draw should I just call flop and re-evaluate turn? That would have been my line yesterday but I feel like I should be more aggressive
PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
CO ($23.90)
Hero ($21.75)
SB ($35.60)
BB ($13.05)
UTG ($60.80)
MP ($34.60)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 4 , 4 , 6 , A .
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, SB raises to $1.75, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.50, MP calls $1.50, CO folds, Hero calls $1.50.
Flop: ($7.50) 9 , 4 , 7 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $5, SB folds, UTG folds, MP calls $5.
Turn: ($17.50) T (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks. <-- I have less than pot behind here
River: ($17.50) 8club (2 players)
MP bets $16.65, Hero folds.
OMG, I fucked this up didn't I? easy push with maybe some FE and redraw?
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salsa4ever
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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the first hand I think you're ahead on the flop with a half pot bet and a flat call holding top 2 pair. I'd pot the flop, and I pot the turn. Makes the river call a trivial decision.
Hand 2, the most obvious draw here was 8T. If he was a decent player and not a fish, he shouldn't be holding 68 or 8J on its own. So for a good player to have made his hand he would have had to have 68T or 8TJ for or 568 a 13+ out straight draw. Is he a player who would play more aggressively with a draw that good? Remember he could realisitcaly have 3456 too.
My issue is, lets say the river is Ad and he pushes the river. Are you going to call, with less than pot behind? If you were going to fold, that's a bit weak-tight, I'd need a read for that. If you were going to call, then see how checking saves you absolutely nothing against the made hand and costs you either the bet (or pot) if he would have called (or folded and the river made his hand). Add the fact your hand might have been good, and the fact you have 10 outs on the river, and the fact that a made straight would probably bet in case YOU had spades, makes the turn a clear all-in
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great analysis salsa, thx
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